Scott Wrote: Somethin’ has got to give. Nobody gets to ask so much and get away
with it.

Wonderful reply that brought a smile to my face, as he gets the challenge.
Everyone did, thanks for all the replies. At least one of the direct notes from
the List identified a very good candidate that is the starting point for the
process Scott outlined. I’ll be placing an order soon and making a second box.

In the meantime, if the ‘share’ works, here’s some metal work (GASP!) I did pull
off to get some Lee Valley hinges to work on my inaugural #801 look-alike.

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Smitty

Woodsmith/ShopNotes did a plan for a rebuild of the No. 888 (a slightly larger
version of the 801) in a recent article and offers the plans here: http://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/antique-
toolbox/">http://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/antique-toolbox/

The plans are in ShopNotes Vol. 23 Issue 134.

They got around the sourcing of the hinges by using regular butt hinges.

I own an original No. 888, and in looking at it I don't really see any advantage
to the modified external mount strap hinges.  The sides and top are 1/2 inch
stock and surface screwing into it would offer marginal strength increases over
normal butt install in my opinion.

I am also in the process of making one of these and am planning on dovetailing
the sides (why? Because it is cooler) and will use the butt hinges (why? Because
it is a lot easier and it will be a user tool, and there are so many other
details like the other hardware, plaques and decals that are not sourceable)

Ed O'

To Ed O' and other toolbox-lusting galoots: 

> 
> Woodsmith/ShopNotes did a plan for a rebuild of the No. 888 (a slightly larger
version of the 801) in a recent article and offers the plans here: http://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/antique-
toolbox/">http://www.woodsmithplans.com/plan/antique-toolbox/
> 
> The plans are in ShopNotes Vol. 23 Issue 134.
> 
 
That's useful information. I'm sure I speak for others as I thank you for
posting it.
 
>
>and there are so many other details like the other hardware, plaques and decals
that are not sourceable)
> 

The Gauntlet has been hurled at our feet!  To a Galoot, "not sourceable" just
means "I'll have to make it myself!" The Bugbear remarked that a 90 deg. bend
can be put into a strap hinge.  If the holes in the hinges are in the wrong
place, or the countersinks are on the wrong side, then the unwanted holes get
welded up and the correct ones drilled.  "Heat Affected Zones" ? We're Galoots:
we solve problems the old fashioned way.  We anneal it in a charcoal fire.  I've
seen  strap hinges where the rectangular leaf could be cut and filed to look
like the Stanley "Notched Logo".   Personal Computers printers, and scanners
give us the opportunity to make replica decals.  There are also people who make
_photo-etched_ items using digital processes to create the transparency. It's
all do-able in a small or home shop. It just depends on how badly you want it,
meaning how much time and effort are you willing to put in. Note carefully that
I did not directly contradict the statement that the needed items are "not
sourceable". It's true that they cannot be purchased from any external source.
But that does not mean they cannot be obtained by diverse galoot arts. John Ruth

>The Gauntlet has been hurled at our feet!  To a Galoot, "not sourceable"
just means "I'll have to make it myself!"

 

>John Ruth  

 

At the risk of asking a foolish question to this group.

 

Why bother?  Will it be stronger?  So much of any repro is going to be off
from the original that it seems pointless.

 

Obviously Stanley being a huge company out to make money had a reason to
take on the extra expense, but that is lost on me.  Until I can accept a
reason to do the harder thing , I'll do the easy thing.

 

I think it would be pretty easy to fabricate hinges that look and function
pretty close to the original, but I just don't see the benefit.

 

Again a foolish question for us.

 

Ed O'

> In the meantime, if the ‘share’ works, here’s some metal work (GASP!)
> I did pull off to get some Lee Valley hinges to work on my inaugural
> #801 look-alike.

Good work!  Looks very good.

Mike soon to be in Woodland

John Ruth wrote: "To a Galoot, "not sourceable" just means "I'll have to make
it myself!" The Bugbear remarked that a 90 deg. bend can be put into a strap
hinge.... I've seen  strap hinges where the rectangular leaf could be cut and
filed to look like the Stanley "Notched Logo".  "
I think it may be easier to make hinges from scratch than modify existing
hinges. I've made small hinge-like plates, and in brass on a small scale it
isn't that hard. Machinist's vise, hacksaw, file, soft hammer, sheet steel for
the plate, pin. Scriber for layout, sharpie or (if you go posh) marking fluid.
Drill, bit, countersink. Torch for annealing, possibly optional. If you can't
find instructions on line, ther must be a description in Moxon. I can't recall
making actual hinges, mind you, so maybe I shouldn't talk; but for a group where
members make godhelpus infill planes and guitars and suchlike, hinges should be
a snap.
Tom Conroy

I think I will make some out of green oak tonight.

Brasso will shine em up.