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249751 Frank Reid <wreid@t...> 2014‑08‑06 Quiet
It is still very quiet on my end.

Frank Reid
249752 David Nighswander <wishingstarfarm663@m...> 2014‑08‑06 Re: Quiet
Hello? Helllloooooo?
Must be everyone is taking a nap. 






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From: Frank Reid
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It is still very quiet on my end.

Frank Reid
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249753 Malcolm Thomas <idraconus@i...> 2014‑08‑06 Re: Quiet
I wish !  .... Middle of a work day down here :-)

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249754 Champ Herren <champherren3@g...> 2014‑08‑06 Re: Quiet
All's quiet, and hot in hill country.  This guy is ready for fall.
 Currently there are no birds to shoot, the fish aren't biting (well), the
garage/shop/whatever is a stifling 100 degrees and the woods are full of
ticks.

I have hope though, the other day a northerly breeze brought the smell of
dead leaves to my nostrils.  You know that smell?  The one you remember
from childhood as you played in a pile of them.  I know not where the smell
came from, could be up the road, could be way north or way way north;
however it came.  Fall is not far behind.

CH
249756 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2014‑08‑06 Re: Fwd: Re: Quiet
Too quiet as they used to say in a hundred different cowboys and Indians 
movies.

So I'll liven things up a bit with a bunch of videos.  As some might 
remember, I'm
researching Russian cooper's tools for the new room plan for the 
cooper's shop there.
Trying to find more than I have up till now, I checked up Russian 
woodworking.  This
is what I found -- Russian carpenters using largely traditional tools to 
restore
and/or reproduce old Russian structures.  St. Roy would fall in love 
with these.

http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
plah">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-plah
http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
tyosa">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-tyosa
http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/okorka-
brevna">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/okorka-brevna
http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/pricherchivanie-
brevna">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/pricherchivanie-brevna
http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
lemeha">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-lemeha
http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
lemeha">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-lemeha (this one you
can
access from
the one above)

Making, then using an axe:

http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
prichelin">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-prichelin

I am reminded of one of the early episodes of the Woodwright's Shop, 
where Roy went
to Scandinavia for a show on making log cabins.  The ax work is simply 
incredible.
In one part, the carpenter is explaining the design of the traditional 
Russian
ax.  Can't understand a word of Russian, but he is pointing out the 
triangular
eye, which makes it OK to use the poll as a hammer, and the straightness 
of the
sides of the blade, which pretty much turn it into an ambidextrous broad 
ax.

Hollowing out the underside of a log to fit it snugly over the top of 
the log
it will rest on is good.  Carving a curve into a shingle to fit it over 
a curved
surface using only an ax...

The second video at 
http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
lemeha">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-lemeha (don't know
why it has the same URL as the decorative shingle making video) shows 
them using a
drawknife with straight handles -- straight out from the blade -- and 
it's pushed,
not drawn toward you.  A very different way of making shingles.

Mike in Sacto
249757 Champ Herren <champherren3@g...> 2014‑08‑06 Re: Quiet
I'm not ready for fall yet.

I get that...one persons wish is another's hindrance.

My daddy once told a joke about a farming community in the midst of a
drought.  It seems during Sunday service the parson announced a special
service that evening to gather and pray for rain.  Everyone was nodding and
murmuring in agreement when a little old man stood up in the back and said,
"can you all hold off till I get the new roof on my barn finished?"

CH
249767 Philip Yarra <philip.yarra@i...> 2014‑08‑07 Re: Quiet
On 07/08/14 02:03, Champ Herren wrote:
> My daddy once told a joke about a farming community in the midst of a
> drought.  It seems during Sunday service the parson announced a special
> service that evening to gather and pray for rain.  Everyone was nodding and
> murmuring in agreement when a little old man stood up in the back and said,
> "can you all hold off till I get the new roof on my barn finished?"
>

Puts me in mind of the poem "Said Hanrahan":
http://en.wikipedi
a.org/wiki/Said_Hanrahan#The_Poem

Every time I read this old poem, I can hear the voices of the cockies* 
dispensing the wisdom of the land.

Cheers,
Philip

* farmer - see here: 
http://andc.anu.edu.au/australian-words/meanings-
origins?field_alphabet_value=81">http://andc.anu.edu.au/australian-words
/meanings-origins?field_alphabet_value=81
249768 Champ Herren <champherren3@g...> 2014‑08‑07 Re: Quiet
Every time I read this old poem, I can hear the voices of the cockies*
dispensing the wisdom of the land.

Cheers,
Philip

I love that Philip.  It is reminiscent of Burns.  It also reminds me of the
old New England verse, "The Ciders Gett'in Low"...any of the Yankee
brethren know it?

On topic, verse written on trades are common enough.  In the Ozark region
where men hacked ties for a living the verse is "Tie Hacking is Tiresome"

CH
254442 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2015‑04‑21 Re: Fwd: Re: Quiet
Way back in August

On 2014-08-06 9:22 AM, Michael Blair wrote:
> As some might remember, I'm
> researching Russian cooper's tools for the new room plan for the 
> cooper's shop there.
> Trying to find more than I have up till now, I checked up Russian 
> woodworking.  This
> is what I found -- Russian carpenters using largely traditional tools 
> to restore
> and/or reproduce old Russian structures.  St. Roy would fall in love 
> with these.
>
> http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
plah">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-plah
> http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
tyosa">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-tyosa
> http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/okorka-
brevna">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/okorka-brevna
> http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/pricherchivanie-
brevna">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/pricherchivanie-brevna
> http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
lemeha">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-lemeha
> http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
lemeha">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-lemeha (this one you
> can access from
> the one above)

I finally watched these and found the axe work fascinating. I am very 
cautious wielding an axe, as I have so little experience with them, I 
was axe - errr awe struck. But I was also intrigued to see a drill bit I 
hadn't seen before:

at 1:41 in to http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-
prichelin">http://kizhi.karelia.ru/crafts/en/izgotovlenie-prichelin

It seems like a cross between a spade bit and a center bit, and I'm 
wondering if anyone knows about these, or can offer any insight into 
origin or benefits of this design?

Don
254446 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2015‑04‑21 Re: Fwd: Re: Quiet
I hadn't noticed that bit.  It looks like a modified spade bit (hard to 
be
sure from its brief appearance) of the sort Scott G recommended making a
while back.

As for the ax work, I'm trying to do some like this, a bit at a time.  
The
ax is a good deal more versatile than we commonly think.  (I've seen 
photos
of a Maine hunting guide whittling a canoe paddle using his ax.)  I now
have two Russian axes one at about a pound and another at about 3 1/2 
pounds.
They're interestingly balanced.

Mike in Sacto

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