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251466 JAMES THOMPSON <oldmillrat@m...> 2014‑10‑30 mystery shave
Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no idea what
it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail, but that’s a WAG
on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.

https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&
feat=directlink-----------------------------------------------------------------
-------">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&
feat=directlink-----------------------------------------------------------------
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251467 JAMES THOMPSON <oldmillrat@m...> 2014‑10‑30 Re: mystery shave
OK that was the wrong url. Try this:

https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?auth
user=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Octob
er30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink

On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:

> Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no idea
what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail, but that’s a
WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.
com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink-------------------
-----------------
251468 "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq" <rohrabacher@e...> 2014‑10‑30 Re: mystery shave
Never seen anything like it
  Don't see the Dovetail geometry though
251469 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2014‑10‑30 Re: mystery shave
Looks like it would cut rabbets on a curved surface/

Was going to guess leather working, since I could not see it well
originally.

The steel is Jessop, so no real leads there.

And you said bronze, so could be user copied.

Will check the spokeshave book when I get home.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:

> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?au
thuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oct
ober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
>
> > Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no
> idea what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail,
> but that’s a WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
> >
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.
com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink-------------------
-----------------
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251470 JAMES THOMPSON <oldmillrat@m...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
The cutters are angled slightly, that’s why I think it has something to do with
dovetails. ook carefully and you will see the angles.


> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Kirk Eppler  wrote:
> 
> Looks like it would cut rabbets on a curved surface/
> 
> Was going to guess leather working, since I could not see it well originally.
> 
> The steel is Jessop, so no real leads there.
> 
> And you said bronze, so could be user copied.
> 
> Will check the spokeshave book when I get home.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM, JAMES THOMPSON mailto:oldmillrat@m...">mailto:oldmillrat@m...>> wrote:
> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?au
thuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oct
ober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink <https://picasaweb.google.c
om/102358420595488787966/October30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink">https://pic
asaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?authuser=0&feat=directli
nk>
> 
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON mailto:oldmillrat@m...">mailto:oldmillrat@m...>> wrote:
> 
> > Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no idea
what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail, but that’s a
WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
> >
> > https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuse
r=0&feat=directlink------------------------------------">https://picasaweb.googl
e.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink-----------------
------------------- <https://picasaweb.google.com/10235842059548878
7966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink------------------------------------">ht
tps://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=direct
link------------------------------------>
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251471 William Ghio <bghio@m...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
On Oct 30, 2014, at 7:42 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:

> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?au
thuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oct
ober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
> 
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
> 
>> Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no idea
what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail, but that’s a
WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
>> 

I just see skewed irons from here so I think it is a coachmakers rabbiting
shave.

Bill
251473 Gary Roberts <toolemera@m...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
I was going to say that it’s a plane shave, but…

It looks like a custom made pattern makers rabbet shave for trimming molds for
large patterns such as for steam driven engines.
...............................
Gary Roberts
http://toolemera.com
http://toolemerabooks.com

"I'ld rather read a good book, than write a poor one." Christopher Morley




> On Oct 30, 2014, at 7:42 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
> 
> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?au
thuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oct
ober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
> 
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
> 
>> Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no idea
what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail, but that’s a
WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
>> 
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser
=0&feat=directlink------------------------------------">https://picasaweb.google
.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink------------------
------------------
251474 "John R. Ruth" <johnrruth@h...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
Jim,

Looks like a coachmaker's curved rabbet shave.

John Ruth
251475 Nathan Garver-Daniels <nate.garverdaniels@g...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
The irons are angled but don't seem to match up with the sole.  My WAG
would be that this is used opposite a sash shave to cut the glazing rabbet
in a curved sash.

-Nate
On Oct 30, 2014 7:42 PM, "JAMES THOMPSON"  wrote:

> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
>
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?au
thuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oct
ober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
>
> > Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no
> idea what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail,
> but that’s a WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
> >
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.
com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink-------------------
-----------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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251476 Gary Roberts <toolemera@m...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
Well, it’s not a coopers tool, not a leather workers tool, so it must be a Sabot
makers tool.
...............................
Gary Roberts
http://toolemera.com
http://toolemerabooks.com

"I'ld rather read a good book, than write a poor one." Christopher Morley




> On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:47 PM, Nathan Garver-Daniels 
wrote:
> 
> The irons are angled but don't seem to match up with the sole.  My WAG
> would be that this is used opposite a sash shave to cut the glazing rabbet
> in a curved sash.
> 
> -Nate
> On Oct 30, 2014 7:42 PM, "JAMES THOMPSON"  wrote:
>
251477 Ben <benbelzer@h...> 2014‑10‑31 RE: mystery shave
I believe I've seen one of these in Salaman's Dictionary of WW tools, but don't
have a copy on me.  If anyone else does, I believe it may be under
coachmaking...  -Ben

> Subject: Re: [OldTools] mystery shave
> From: oldmillrat@m...
> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:42:04 -0700
> To: oldtools@r...
> 
> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?au
thuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oct
ober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
> 
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
> 
> > Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no idea
what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail, but that’s a
WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
> > 
> > https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuse
r=0&feat=directlink------------------------------------">https://picasaweb.googl
e.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink-----------------
-------------------

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251479 Ed Minch <ruby@m...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
I checked Salaman and there are very few tools listed under “Coachmaking” and no
coachmaker’s shaves listed under “shaves”.  Where else would I look?


Ed Minch




On Oct 31, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Ben  wrote:

> I believe I've seen one of these in Salaman's Dictionary of WW tools, but
don't have a copy on me.  If anyone else does, I believe it may be under
coachmaking...  -Ben
> 
>> Subject: Re: [OldTools] mystery shave
>> From: oldmillrat@m...
>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:42:04 -0700
>> To: oldtools@r...
>> 
>> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
>> 
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?a
uthuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oc
tober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
251480 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
The mystery shave is a coachmaker's rabbeting shave.  This one is set up
with skew blades, right and left, making it more efficient for cutting
across the grain -- it's like having a left and right hand dado plane.
Never seen one of these before, but I have a couple of coachmaker's
rabbeting shaves, one with a fence to guide the width of the rabbet, and
a coachmaker's router.

The other, not having two skewed blades, is fundamentally the Stanley 
68.
The odd thing is that other than the Stanley, most of such shaves are 
either
shop made or special order, it seems.  One of my rabbeting shaves has a
Stanley SW blade, in fact.

Those I've seen listed by antique tool dealers tend to run $100 to $300 
a
copy.

Mike in Sacto
251488 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2014‑10‑31 Re: mystery shave
Jim

This looks almost exactly like a Hammacher Schlemmer & Co Molding
Spokeshave as shown on page 313, plate 13/10 of The Spokeshave Book.

Rumored to be about 1930s vintage, based on units manufactured by Geral,
but don't look the same.  The Gerals did not show the center "shoe" that
yours has (at least not in the examples pictured). Geral is listed as
carriage makers tools, and their "molding shaves" have the same cutter set
up, but without the center "shoe"  p313 plate 13/4.

I cant get the HS& Co catalogs to download (1170 pgs) right now from
Archive.org, but may only be a 1914 version.

Kirk in HMB, taking a day off in the rain.  My dogs love me for this.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Kirk Eppler  wrote:

> Looks like it would cut rabbets on a curved surface/
>
> Was going to guess leather working, since I could not see it well
> originally.
>
> The steel is Jessop, so no real leads there.
>
> And you said bronze, so could be user copied.
>
> Will check the spokeshave book when I get home.
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
>
>> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
>>
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?a
uthuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Oc
tober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
>>
>> > Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no
>> idea what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail,
>> but that’s a WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
>> >
>> >
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser
=0&feat=directlink------------------------------------">https://picasaweb.google
.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink------------------
------------------
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
>
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> Principal Engineer
> PP&TD
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> 650 225-3911
>



-- 
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PP&TD
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650 225-3911
251493 Brent Beach <brent.beach@g...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: mystery shave
Kirk found it

On page 502 of the 1914 catalog a very similar shave with the rounded 
central fence and the two knives, angled.

Under carriage makers tools. Says it is for cutting square moulding. 
Will work on any curve or sweep.

Brent

On 2014-10-31 15:06, Kirk Eppler wrote:
> Jim
>
> This looks almost exactly like a Hammacher Schlemmer & Co Molding
> Spokeshave as shown on page 313, plate 13/10 of The Spokeshave Book.
>
> Rumored to be about 1930s vintage, based on units manufactured by Geral,
> but don't look the same.  The Gerals did not show the center "shoe" that
> yours has (at least not in the examples pictured). Geral is listed as
> carriage makers tools, and their "molding shaves" have the same cutter set
> up, but without the center "shoe"  p313 plate 13/4.
>
> I cant get the HS& Co catalogs to download (1170 pgs) right now from
> Archive.org, but may only be a 1914 version.
>
> Kirk in HMB, taking a day off in the rain.  My dogs love me for this.
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Kirk Eppler  wrote:
>
>> Looks like it would cut rabbets on a curved surface/
>>
>> Was going to guess leather working, since I could not see it well
>> originally.
>>
>> The steel is Jessop, so no real leads there.
>>
>> And you said bronze, so could be user copied.
>>
>> Will check the spokeshave book when I get home.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:42 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
>>
>>> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?
authuser=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/O
ctober30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink
>>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 4:40 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here are pictures of one of the tools I recently was given. I have no
>>> idea what it is for. Looks like a shave for trimming a sliding dovetail,
>>> but that’s a WAG on my part. But the porch has never failed me yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuse
r=0&feat=directlink------------------------------------">https://picasaweb.googl
e.com/102358420595488787966/NewFinds?authuser=0&feat=directlink-----------------
-------------------
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of
>>> traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools.
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Kirk Eppler
>> Principal Engineer
>> PP&TD
>> eppler.kirk@g...
>> 650 225-3911
>>
>
>
>

-- 
Brent Beach
Victoria, BC, Canada
251494 Gary Roberts <toolemera@m...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: mystery shave
I tried to, but nothing happened. The works continued to spin. 
...............................
Gary Roberts
http://toolemera.com
http://toolemerabooks.com

"I'ld rather read a good book, than write a poor one." Christopher Morley




> On Oct 31, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Mick Dowling  wrote:
> 
> Gary are you just trying to throw a clog in the works?
> 
> Mick Dowling
> 
> 
> On 31/10/2014 2:30 pm, "Gary Roberts"  wrote:
> 
>> Well, it¹s not a coopers tool, not a leather workers tool, so it must be a
>> Sabot makers tool.
>> ...............................
>> Gary Roberts
>> http://toolemera.com
>> http://toolemerabooks.com
>> 
>> "I'ld rather read a good book, than write a poor one." Christopher Morley
251495 "Adam R. Maxwell" <amaxwell@m...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: Shopping for a Magnifier Lamp
> On Oct 31, 2014, at 17:11 , Adrian Jones  wrote:
> 
> I've pulled the trigger on an Optivisor (the one with glass lenses!)

I bought one on advice of the Porch a couple years ago,
and it's fantastic. No loupe, though…

Adam
251497 neilshaw@a... 2014‑11‑01 Re: mystery shave
I took a quick look cos I knew I had seen it or something like it

	583(e)

	Routers - Coachbuidlers Jigger

	If this has already been answered I apologise but its spring here and
I'm running way behind

	 

	Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Minch" 
To:"Ben" 
Cc:"Old Tools" 
Sent:Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:28:52 -0400
Subject:Re: [OldTools] mystery shave

 I checked Salaman and there are very few tools listed under
“Coachmaking” and no coachmaker’s shaves listed under
“shaves”. Where else would I look?

 Ed Minch

 On Oct 31, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Ben  wrote:

 > I believe I've seen one of these in Salaman's Dictionary of WW
tools, but don't have a copy on me. If anyone else does, I believe it
may be under coachmaking.. -Ben
 > 
 >> Subject: Re: [OldTools] mystery shave
 >> From: oldmillrat@m...
 >> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 16:42:04 -0700
 >> To: oldtools@r...
 >> 
 >> OK that was the wrong url. Try this:
 >> 
 >>
https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/October30201403?auth
user=0&feat=directlink">https://picasaweb.google.com/102358420595488787966/Octob
er30201403?authuser=0&feat=directlink

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251501 "John R. Ruth" <johnrruth@h...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: Shopping for a Magnifier Lamp
Adrian,

I have two Dazor brand magnifier lamps which work fine for me.

John Ruth

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Adrian Jones  wrote:
> 
> Well, you'll be proud of me.
> I've started along the road of sharpening hand saws.
> A slight difficulty is I can't see squat.
> Looks like I need one of those big-ass lighted magnifiers that clamp on a
bench or something.
> 
> Any recommendations for a good one?
> 
> 
> 
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251502 Mark Lovett Wells <mark@m...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: Shopping for a Magnifier Lamp
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Don Schwartz  wrote:

> You've had good advice. I have one of those $$ magnifying Luxo lamps (with
> two extra lenses), that I got for little money a few years ago, and still
> much prefer the Optivisor.
>

I have a Magni-Focuser #104, which looks like it is similar to the
Optivisor.  Plate #104 has 2x magnification and they say a working distance
of 10".  I'm not sure how the 10" is measured.  To bring items in focus, I
have to get the lens closer than 10" to the work.  Maybe 10" is from my
eye?  It's so close that I don't really feel like I have room to move the
file back and forth while sharpening.

I must be missing something here.  What magnification do you guys use for
saw sharpening?

Mark
251511 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: mystery shave
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Kirk Eppler  wrote:

> This looks almost exactly like a Hammacher Schlemmer & Co Molding
> Spokeshave as shown on page 313, plate 13/10 of The Spokeshave Book.
>
> Rumored to be about 1930s vintage, based on units manufactured by Geral,
> but don't look the same.  The Gerals did not show the center "shoe" that
> yours has (at least not in the examples pictured). Geral is listed as
> carriage makers tools, and their "molding shaves" have the same cutter set
> up, but without the center "shoe"  p313 plate 13/4.
>
>
>
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Further notes from hanging about on Halloween and only getting bothered by
six kids.

The 1896 HS&Co catalog has them on page 61, again as carriage makers'
moulding tools, $1.30 to $1.50 each, in Bronze bodies.  (MWTCA reprint,
BTW, thanks Josh)

The Spookshave book (clever, huh), page 202.13 has a color plate of the
Gerals, but refers to them as iron handled, showing the center shoe, which
was not visible on the other page.  The HS&Co listing in the Spokeshave
book says bronze for them.

So, I'd guess if yours are bronze, HS&Co,

No idea where my Salman's is at, hoping at my desk at work.

Kirk in HMB, where its still raining, YEAH.
251513 Don Schwartz <dks@t...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: Shopping for a Magnifier Lamp
On 11/1/2014 6:17 AM, Mark Lovett Wells wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Don Schwartz  <mailto:dks@t...>> wrote:
>
>     You've had good advice. I have one of those $$ magnifying Luxo
>     lamps (with two extra lenses), that I got for little money a few
>     years ago, and still much prefer the Optivisor.
>
>
> I have a Magni-Focuser #104, which looks like it is similar to the 
> Optivisor.  Plate #104 has 2x magnification and they say a working 
> distance of 10".  I'm not sure how the 10" is measured.  To bring 
> items in focus, I have to get the lens closer than 10" to the work.  
> Maybe 10" is from my eye?  It's so close that I don't really feel like 
> I have room to move the file back and forth while sharpening.
>
> I must be missing something here.  What magnification do you guys use 
> for saw sharpening?
>
> Mark

My Optivisor is also 2X  / 10in. For saw-filing, I don't use it 
continuously, just flip it down to check or verify. I have made a to-do 
of building a riser for my saw vise which would allow me to use the 
Optivisor continuously, but it's hardly necessary, and may never climb 
to the top of my list.

Don
251522 "David Erickson" <dave@r...> 2014‑11‑01 Re: Shopping for a Magnifier Lamp
Magnifier lamps can be useful.  I have one on my Delta 17" drillpress that
mounts with a 5/16" arm and has an adjustable swivel.  Its really useful for
centering small drill bits.  However, for any really finicky small projects,
I had my optometrist order a pair of bifocals which focus at 6" on the
bottom and 18" on top.  The bottom bifocals have a 6 power magnification.
They were no more expensive to make than my reading glasses, and work great.
With the 6x magnification, I have no problems seeing the numbers on the
shanks of small number drills.  I had the lenses made to order for a pair of
antique eyeglass frames with wire temples.
251525 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2014‑11‑02 Re: mystery shave
> The Spookshave book (clever, huh), page 202.13 has a color plate of the
> Gerals, but refers to them as iron handled,

Geral did make bronze shaves.  I've seen them for sale by reputable 
sellers,
and I also have one.

Mike in Sacto

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