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251261 Gye Greene <gyegreene@g...> 2014‑10‑20 Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
GGs,


Sorry -- another one.

It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a hammer.

http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169


Why is the cutting edge at such an angle -- rather than parallel to
the handle?  And what's with the spike?


Thanks!


--Travis
251271 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2014‑10‑20 RE: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
I would say that it might be a Boarding Axe, except that it seems way too small.
(Boarding as in naval warfare in the days of sail.)
 
Perhaps it is some sort of half-scale replica of a Boarding Axe? 
 
John Ruth
 
> From: gyegreene@g...
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 23:39:20 +1000
> To: oldtools@r...
> Subject: [OldTools] Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
> 
> GGs,
> 
> 
> Sorry -- another one.
> 
> It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a hammer.
> 
> http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
> 
> 
> Why is the cutting edge at such an angle -- rather than parallel to
> the handle?  And what's with the spike?
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> --Travis
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251272 Anthony Seo <tonyseo@p...> 2014‑10‑20 RE: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
At 02:09 PM 10/20/2014, John Ruth wrote:
>I would say that it might be a Boarding Axe, except that it seems 
>way too small.  (Boarding as in naval warfare in the days of sail.)
>
>Perhaps it is some sort of half-scale replica of a Boarding Axe?
>

> > Sorry -- another one.
> >
> > It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size 
> of a hammer.
> >
> > http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
> >

That is a somewhat common small tomahawk like axe that shows up from 
time to time.   I've had maybe 10 of those over the years.  No idea 
on the maker of them but it was a factory produced item.  Someplace, 
some time I remember a couple of guys talking about how at a farm 
auction, a whole bucket of them showed up.  The handle is a 
replacement or somebody's idea of a good time but when I find them 
they are always just the head.  People do pay some good money for them though.

Tony (chillin' here in PA...too soon I might add)



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251275 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2014‑10‑20 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
I looked through my 1934 and 1964 big book hardware wholesaler books, and
found nothing like either

Kirk Eppler from the Droid
On Oct 20, 2014 6:39 AM, "Gye Greene"  wrote:
.
>
> It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a
hammer.
>
> http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
>
251276 Phil Koontz <phil.koontz@g...> 2014‑10‑20 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
My guess would be an ice pick, used for reducing blocks of ice to fit in a
water can or icebox.

Takes me back to my days as a minimum wage summer laborer.

PK


> > It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a
> hammer.
> >
> > http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
251277 Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> 2014‑10‑20 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
Googling

ice hatchet -axe -kills

Brings up a Sears catalog link from 1897 that looks like the tool, except
the catalog shows a chisel at the end of the handle

Kirk in HMB, killing time while my truck gets serviced.



On Monday, October 20, 2014, Phil Koontz  wrote:

> My guess would be an ice pick, used for reducing blocks of ice to fit in a
> water can or icebox.
>
> Takes me back to my days as a minimum wage summer laborer.
>
> PK
>
>
> > > It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a
> > hammer.
> > >
> > > http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
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-- 
Sent from my iPad, apologies for the Auto Correct errors.
Kirk
251282 "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq" <rohrabacher@e...> 2014‑10‑20 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
A weapon?

On 10/20/2014 3:20 PM, Kirk Eppler wrote:
> Googling
>
> ice hatchet -axe -kills
>
> Brings up a Sears catalog link from 1897 that looks like the tool, except
> the catalog shows a chisel at the end of the handle
>
> Kirk in HMB, killing time while my truck gets serviced.
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 20, 2014, Phil Koontz  wrote:
>
>> My guess would be an ice pick, used for reducing blocks of ice to fit in a
>> water can or icebox.
>>
>> Takes me back to my days as a minimum wage summer laborer.
>>
>> PK
>>
>>
>>>> It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a
>>> hammer.
>>>> http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
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251283 Bob Miller <bobprime@b...> 2014‑10‑20 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
A firefighting friend suggests that it may still be a fireman's axe.  He
indicated that there are small versions of many tools.  A quick google
search finds 1.5# pick head axes with 14" handles are still made.  Thats
the best guess i can supply.

Bob

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq <
rohrabacher@e...> wrote:

> A weapon?
>
>
> On 10/20/2014 3:20 PM, Kirk Eppler wrote:
>
>> Googling
>>
>> ice hatchet -axe -kills
>>
>> Brings up a Sears catalog link from 1897 that looks like the tool, except
>> the catalog shows a chisel at the end of the handle
>>
>> Kirk in HMB, killing time while my truck gets serviced.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 20, 2014, Phil Koontz  wrote:
>>
>>  My guess would be an ice pick, used for reducing blocks of ice to fit in
>>> a
>>> water can or icebox.
>>>
>>> Takes me back to my days as a minimum wage summer laborer.
>>>
>>> PK
>>>
>>>
>>>  It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a
>>>>>
>>>> hammer.
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
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251284 Anthony Seo <tonyseo@p...> 2014‑10‑20 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
At 05:54 PM 10/20/2014, Bob Miller wrote:
>A firefighting friend suggests that it may still be a fireman's axe.  He
>indicated that there are small versions of many tools.  A quick google
>search finds 1.5# pick head axes with 14" handles are still made.  Thats
>the best guess i can supply.

Sigh....I guess I don't know anything but...

I can't find a picture of the last one that I had BUT...that head is 
no more than 3 1/2" long, maybe 4".  Weight is about 6 oz.

I'm sure they were made for some purpose but for firefighting, it was 
not.  It might be a small ice axe, but we are talking cubes, not blocks.

Tony (................................................)



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251287 Chuck Ramsey <chuck-ramsey@l...> 2014‑10‑21 RE: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
From: chuck-ramsey@l...
To: gyegreene@g...
Subject: RE: [OldTools] Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:23:53 -0600





 

> 
> http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
> 
The description proclaims, "Great Fine Handle."  I don't know about that.The
grain run out makes me think it wouldn't last two swings against a blockof ice
or a burning building or even the skull of a sailor. chuck
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251293 neilshaw@a... 2014‑10‑21 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
Closest thing in my HS&B 1899 cattledog is an ice axe also 

	The casting on the cheek looks to designed to lock into something and
then use the handle as a lever -  could perhaps work with ice but I
think it's a stretch

	Neil  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Eppler" 
To:"Phil Koontz" 
Cc:"Old Tools" 
Sent:Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:20:05 -0700
Subject:Re: [OldTools] Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)

 Googling

 ice hatchet -axe -kills

 Brings up a Sears catalog link from 1897 that looks like the tool,
except
 the catalog shows a chisel at the end of the handle

 Kirk in HMB, killing time while my truck gets serviced.

 On Monday, October 20, 2014, Phil Koontz  wrote:

 > My guess would be an ice pick, used for reducing blocks of ice to
fit in a
 > water can or icebox.
 >
 > Takes me back to my days as a minimum wage summer laborer.
 >
 > PK
 >
 >
 > > > It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the
size of a
 > > hammer.
 > > >
 > > > http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
 >
251297 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2014‑10‑21 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter'saxe?)
> I'm sure they were made for some purpose

It's just for very small fires...
251547 Bob Miller <bobprime@b...> 2014‑11‑04 Re: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
Sorry to revive a really old thread but I got some info out of a much large
group of FF.

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Gye Greene  wrote:
>
> It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size of a
> hammer.
> http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
> Why is the cutting edge at such an angle -- rather than parallel to
> the handle?  And what's with the spike?
>

To quote someone who knows what they are talking about:
"This is a ladder-climber axe (aka California axe) and would be used for
roof operations - assisting ventilation & breaking glass."
" The long plunge to the beard is so you can reach up and hang it off of a
ladder rung while you climb."

Bob
252372 "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> 2014‑12‑17 RE: Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)
Isn't that little hatchet a drywall hatchet?

J

Joseph Sullivan

 
 

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Behalf Of Anthony Seo
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 1:23 PM
To: John Ruth; Gye Greene; oldtools@r...
Subject: RE: [OldTools] Unusual hatchet (small firefighter's axe?)

At 02:09 PM 10/20/2014, John Ruth wrote:
>I would say that it might be a Boarding Axe, except that it seems way 
>too small.  (Boarding as in naval warfare in the days of sail.)
>
>Perhaps it is some sort of half-scale replica of a Boarding Axe?
>

> > Sorry -- another one.
> >
> > It reminds me of a firefighting axe -- except that it's the size
> of a hammer.
> >
> > http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-
hatchets/8169">http://www.toolexchange.com.au/our-tools/axes-hatchets/8169
> >

That is a somewhat common small tomahawk like axe that shows up from 
time to time.   I've had maybe 10 of those over the years.  No idea 
on the maker of them but it was a factory produced item.  Someplace, some
time I remember a couple of guys talking about how at a farm auction, a
whole bucket of them showed up.  The handle is a replacement or somebody's
idea of a good time but when I find them they are always just the head.
People do pay some good money for them though.

Tony (chillin' here in PA...too soon I might add)



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