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251224 | JAMES THOMPSON <oldmillrat@m...> | 2014‑10‑19 | Help identify this tool |
It may just be me, but the words themselves seem contradictory. An object must be one thing or another. It can't be two different objects at the same time. Except when it means "exactly what I want it to mean." A scraper is one kind of tool, and a burnisher is another. And never the twain shall meet. On Oct 19, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq |
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251225 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2014‑10‑19 | Re: Help identify this tool |
On 10/19/2014 9:41 AM, JAMES THOMPSON wrote: > It may just be me, but the words themselves seem contradictory. An object must be one thing or another. It can't be two different objects at the same time. Except when it means "exactly what I want it to mean." > > A scraper is one kind of tool, and a burnisher is another. And never the twain shall meet. The wording is misleading. It's a scraper burnisher ( i.e. a burnisher for scrapers), not a burnisher / scraper. Don |
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251228 | Brent Beach <brent.beach@g...> | 2014‑10‑19 | Re: Help identify this tool |
And On 2014-10-19 08:41, JAMES THOMPSON wrote: > A scraper is one kind of tool, and a burnisher is another. The tools we are seeing in these ads are designed for the engraving trade. It is possible that scraping and burnishing have slightly different meanings there. Perhaps the goal of scraping is closer to the goal of burnishing in that trade. If both remove detail from an etch, then they are not doing something we do in woodworking (even in the sharpening part of woodworking). Which brings us back to an earlier thread on knife steels. Some serrated - scrapers(files). Some smooth - burnishers. Brent -- Brent Beach Victoria, BC, Canada |
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251230 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2014‑10‑19 | Re: Help identify this tool |
On 10/19/2014 10:52 AM, Brent Beach wrote: > The tools we are seeing in these ads are designed for the engraving > trade. It is possible that scraping and burnishing have slightly > different meanings there. Perhaps the goal of scraping is closer to > the goal of burnishing in that trade. If both remove detail from an > etch, then they are not doing something we do in woodworking (even in > the sharpening part of woodworking). Going out on a limb here. Is it possible that the engraver's burnishers always have polished surfaces and points, and the scraper burnishers offered to woodworkers are unpolished with blunt tips? http://www.ec lyons.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6 Don |
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251250 | "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq" <rohrabacher@e...> | 2014‑10‑20 | Re: Help identify this tool |
On 10/19/2014 11:13 AM, James Thompson wrote: > A scraper is one kind of tool, and a burnisher is another. And never the twain shall meet. Maybe, but I believe that's what they called it. |
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251257 | paul womack <pwomack@p...> | 2014‑10‑20 | Re: Help identify this tool |
Don Schwartz wrote: > > On 10/19/2014 9:41 AM, JAMES THOMPSON wrote: >> It may just be me, but the words themselves seem contradictory. An object must be one thing or another. It can't be two different objects at the same time. Except when it means "exactly what I want it to mean." >> >> A scraper is one kind of tool, and a burnisher is another. And never the twain shall meet. > > The wording is misleading. It's a scraper burnisher ( i.e. a burnisher for scrapers), not a burnisher / scraper. Indeed. "Adjectival noun". Like Fly swatter. BugBear |
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251270 | Brent Beach <brent.beach@g...> | 2014‑10‑20 | Re: Help identify this tool |
But ... On 2014-10-20 01:47, paul womack wrote: > Don Schwartz wrote: >> >> On 10/19/2014 9:41 AM, JAMES THOMPSON wrote: >>> It may just be me, but the words themselves seem contradictory. An >>> object must be one thing or another. It can't be two different >>> objects at the same time. Except when it means "exactly what I want >>> it to mean." >>> >>> A scraper is one kind of tool, and a burnisher is another. And never >>> the twain shall meet. >> >> The wording is misleading. It's a scraper burnisher ( i.e. a burnisher >> for scrapers), not a burnisher / scraper. > > Indeed. "Adjectival noun". Like Fly swatter. If the scrapers have ridges, then how could you burnish them? Can we burnish worn files? Brent -- Brent Beach Victoria, BC, Canada |
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251279 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2014‑10‑20 | Re: Help identify this tool |
On 10/20/2014 12:01 PM, Brent Beach wrote: > If the scrapers have ridges Ridges? Do you mean burrs? Please explain. Don, a little duller than usual this pm |
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