On 10/16/2014 12:37 PM, John Holladay wrote:

"Who, due to recent job change has had so little shop time that I am not 
using much of anything in the way of honing oil except occasionally to 
take 5 minutes to touch up my trusty pocket knife."

Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here carries a 
pocket knife of some sort.  I have more than I want SWMBO to know about 
(I never let more than 2 gather in the same place), including a Barlow 
2-blade given to me by my Dad ca. 1949-50 when I was 7 years old.

I carried gentlemen's Boker Tree brand smallish knives for many years, 
loading the current favorite into my pocket each day just as I did my 
wallet, a handkerchief, and whatever (very small amount) cash I was 
given by 'er indoors.  Now that I've retired, I carry a much bigger and 
more useful knife that is equal to every task I've asked of it for the 
last several years.  It is a Kershaw, assisted-opening single blade of 
~4".  I like it because I can open and close it with one hand.  It came 
pretty sharp, but I've touched it up a time or two.  The Kershaw folks 
sell it with a lifetime sharpening offer, but I haven't wanted to do 
without it for as long as that would take.

How about you folks?

What pocket knife do you carry every day?

Anyone here who doesn't carry one?

Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?

Bob Hutchins
Temple, TX, USA

> What pocket knife do you carry every day?

My current favorite is a Frost Rostfrei "Flying Falcon" that I paid $3 for at a
PNTC meeting.

> Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?

Many years ago I had to give up my small pocket knife before boarding an All
Nippon Airways flight from southern Japan to Tokyo. They put it in an envelope
and carried it in the cockpit. I retrieved it at Haneda Airport in Tokyo, put it
back in my pocket, then boarded a Pan Am international flight to the US with the
knife still in my pocket. Times have changed.

Chuck Taylor
north of Seattle

I carry a Kershaw, assisted-opening single blade knife also. I made the
decision, on my current job, that I would not carry my usual that can do
everything (a Victorlux) seeing as how they did not want me for my mechanical
abilities.

Bill Fariss
Ashburn, Va.
"Never pass up a good opportunity to keep your mouth shut."


On Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:29 PM, RH Hutchins  wrote:
 


On 10/16/2014 12:37 PM, John Holladay wrote:

"Who, due to recent job change has had so little shop time that I am not 
using much of anything in the way of honing oil except occasionally to 
take 5 minutes to touch up my trusty pocket knife."

Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here carries a 
pocket knife of some sort.  I have more than I want SWMBO to know about 
(I never let more than 2 gather in the same place), including a Barlow 
2-blade given to me by my Dad ca. 1949-50 when I was 7 years old.

I carried gentlemen's Boker Tree brand smallish knives for many years, 
loading the current favorite into my pocket each day just as I did my 
wallet, a handkerchief, and whatever (very small amount) cash I was 
given by 'er indoors.  Now that I've retired, I carry a much bigger and 
more useful knife that is equal to every task I've asked of it for the 
last several years.  It is a Kershaw, assisted-opening single blade of 
~4".  I like it because I can open and close it with one hand.  It came 
pretty sharp, but I've touched it up a time or two.  The Kershaw folks 
sell it with a lifetime sharpening offer, but I haven't wanted to do 
without it for as long as that would take.

How about you folks?

What pocket knife do you carry every day?

Anyone here who doesn't carry one?

Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?

Bob Hutchins
Temple, TX, USA

Knife junky here, I carry a very small penknife for use out in public 
because our society has gotten so timid and afraid, and in my pocket I carry 
either a S.S. Kershaw Leek because I like the assisted opening also, or a 
Crkt M-16, or any number of Japanese made Spyderco's depending at the 
perceived need for the day. Hard to get by without a knife, but todays world 
seems to want it that way.

-----Original Message----- 
From: RH Hutchins
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:28 PM
To: oldtools@r...
Subject: [OldTools] Pocket Knives - Derived from Honing Oil Thread

On 10/16/2014 12:37 PM, John Holladay wrote:

"Who, due to recent job change has had so little shop time that I am not
using much of anything in the way of honing oil except occasionally to
take 5 minutes to touch up my trusty pocket knife."

Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here carries a
pocket knife of some sort.  I have more than I want SWMBO to know about
(I never let more than 2 gather in the same place), including a Barlow
2-blade given to me by my Dad ca. 1949-50 when I was 7 years old.

I carried gentlemen's Boker Tree brand smallish knives for many years,
loading the current favorite into my pocket each day just as I did my
wallet, a handkerchief, and whatever (very small amount) cash I was
given by 'er indoors.  Now that I've retired, I carry a much bigger and
more useful knife that is equal to every task I've asked of it for the
last several years.  It is a Kershaw, assisted-opening single blade of
~4".  I like it because I can open and close it with one hand.  It came
pretty sharp, but I've touched it up a time or two.  The Kershaw folks
sell it with a lifetime sharpening offer, but I haven't wanted to do
without it for as long as that would take.

How about you folks?

What pocket knife do you carry every day?

Anyone here who doesn't carry one?

Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?

Bob Hutchins
Temple, TX, USA

On 10/16/2014 2:28 PM, RH Hutchins wrote:
> Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here carries a 
> pocket knife of some sort. 


I used to.  I always carried a SOG lock blade.  A few years ago I did 
some research on a case across nation wide state & federal court 
opinions and discovered  something that blew the myths about knives and 
carrying that I had entertained, all to pieces.

Especially as it regards  fixed or lockable blades and blade length and 
deadly weapon status as seen by the courts, and what kinds of knives 
have been held by courts both federal and state to be deadly weapons and 
therefore unlawful to just be wandering around with.

I learned that  (absent clear state statutes to the contrary)  any fixed 
or lockable blade no matter the length  is per se a deadly weapon and 
unless one has a business or recreational purpose like a job or going 
fishin' well - - -  then having it on one's person constitutes 
possession of a deadly weapon and one can be charged criminally.
is 4"  a limit?  Nope, not unless your state has a 4" law.   None of the 
three states where I'm licensed do. None of the states I surveyed did 
either.

On 10/16/2014 12:28 PM, RH Hutchins wrote:
> Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here carries a 
> pocket knife of some sort.  I have more than I want SWMBO to know 
> about (I never let more than 2 gather in the same place), including a 
> Barlow 2-blade given to me by my Dad ca. 1949-50 when I was 7 years old. 
Always carry a knife. Have since pre-teens when I got a hunting knife ( 
for fishing) and also a souvenier Mountie pocket knife with a 2in blade. 
Have carried a variety of Victorinox SAKs over the year - liked having 
the toothpick and tweezers. Still have one in a kitchen drawer which I 
use opening wine bottles. Another bigger guy in one of the cars, jic. 
The other car has a Leatherman. In my pocket I mostly carry a Schrade 
885 Uncle Henry with 3 stainless blades. Have another with one snapped 
blade in the cave. For pretty, I usually carry a Winchester 3-blade 
stainless with mother of pearl (or abalone?) scales. But not if I'm 
wearing my pocketwatch, which has a gold 2" gent's knife at the end of 
the chain.

When flying, I drop my knife into the checked bag while the agent is 
sorting out things at the counter. Only forgot once, and realized it in 
time to pass it to my buddy to mail home.

Years ago, I deported a guy to Portland, OR, and spent long enough there 
to pick up a lovely Gerber carving knife and fork. Being accustomed to 
travel light (carry-on only), in those days, I stuck them in my bag 
along with my change of clothes, handcuffs etc. When I got to security, 
I was asked about the contents of the bag, but showed them my badge and 
'special' passport, and got waved through. On other occasions, I 
frequently carried handcuffs and belly chains in carry-on: there were 
often questions, but I always brought them back...

But times have indeed changed. I read recently that US Homeland Security 
had eased up on the carry-on pocket-knife. A document I found on their 
website quotes TSA Administrator as follows

"Since my announcement last week, there have been a number of inaccurate 
reports in the media regarding the specific type of knife to be allowed. 
In general, what we are talking about are small pocket knives and other 
common items such as a cork screw with a folding blade 6 cm, or 2.36 
inches or less in overall length, Fixed blade knives, blades with 
locking mechanisms, widths over ½ inch or knives

with molded grip handles will still be prohibited. Similarly, box 
cutters and other razor knives remain prohibited. Of note, the type of 
knife we will permit is far more restrictive than international security 
standards, what is currently permitted to be brought into Federal 
buildings across the country, or what is allowed to be brought into the 
U.S. Capitol building."

The full document is here: 
http:
//search.dhs.gov/search?query=knife&op=Search&affiliate=dhs

The Canadian government allows no knives whatsoever in carry-on. 
http://www.catsa.gc.ca/whatcanIbr
ing

Air Canada goes further:: they prohibit "sharp, percing or cutting 
objects" 
http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelinfo/airport/baggage/carry-
on.html#faq:2-*">http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelinfo/airport/baggage/carry-
on.html#faq:2-*
and have a catch-all which seems to capture needle-nose pliers, 
screwdrivers etc.

But enough. Must dress for dinner!
Don

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> Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here  carries a 
> pocket knife of some sort.  
 
I will make sure that this thread sticks to the charter and mention the  
knife I carry daily - My turn of the Century Miller Bros. Bald Head Jack with 
a  rosewood handle. We always called these "Farmer's knives," and when I 
find them  in the wild, they always follow me home. Big, thick, spear point 
blades with a  wedge profile, Carbon steel that takes and holds a wicked edge. 
 
Now THAT'S a knife. 
 
-Wm. West

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 16, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Pghpensfan@a... wrote:
> 
> Snip
>> Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here  carries a 
>> pocket knife of some sort.  
> 
> I will make sure that this thread sticks to the charter and mention the  
> knife I carry daily - My turn of the Century Miller Bros. Bald Head Jack with 
> a  rosewood handle. We always called these "Farmer's knives," and when I 
> find them  in the wild, they always follow me home. Big, thick, spear point 
> blades with a  wedge profile, Carbon steel that takes and holds a wicked edge.

I think we deserve a pic of this....

Bill

Snip
From: Robert Hutchins
 What pocket knife do you carry every day?
Anyone here who doesn't carry one?
Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?
Unsnip

Over the years I’ve broken, worn out, and lost a dozen or more pocket knives. I
also have gathered twice that many that end up in tool boxes and glove
compartments of various vehicles.
I have 3 or 4 of the Leatherman combination tools that were given to me. I find
that like most combination tools they do a great many jobs poorly and none well.
One with a pair of locking pliers is in my travel bag.
For the past 10 years I’ve been carrying a Schrade Old Timer. The original one
was a carbon steel bladed one with, I believe, plastic scales. It ended up being
left behind at a customers place of business. When I lost the original I got the
other one out of my chest of drawers and started carrying that one. A few years
back I bought a stainless steel bladed Old Timer and I carry that for formal
occasions and keep the carbon steel for day to day.
The only time I have been asked to give one up was when I was going to jury
duty. Dave Rumens was the security guard that day and told me I should take it
back to my car because he couldn’t give it back if I gave it to him. Nice to
have friends.

RH Hutchins wrote:
  > Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here carries a pocket
knife of some sort.

https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-
carry-a-knife">https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife

  BugBear

On 10/17/2014 3:27 AM, paul womack wrote:
> RH Hutchins wrote:
>  > Which leads to an assumption that virtually everyone here carries a 
> pocket knife of some sort.
>
> https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-
carry-a-knife">https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife
>
>  BugBear
>
>
Ouch!  I've been in England on several occasions in decades past and 
always had a pocket knife of some sort with me.  In those days, though, 
boarding an airplane didn't require revealing yourself and a thousand 
years of your ancestry. I guess I was lucky not to have been imprisoned.

I flew regularly for more than 30 years but have not done so in about 
the last 15.  In those old days, a penknife in the loose items bin and a 
wave through the scanner never raised an eyebrow. I would feel naked 
without a small knife in my pocket . . .  not because it's useful for 
self-defense (or is that 'defence,' BugBear?) but because one never 
knows when it will be useful.

How can a Boy Scout "Be Prepared" without a proper knife?  Lord 
Baden-Powell must be turning cartwheels
in his crypt.
--

It never occurred to me that my small lockback knives (OldTimer, Frost Rostfrei)
were considered by some authorities to be deadly weapons. I think I'll switch to
carrying an old Barlow knife that came in a flea market toolbox.  It says "D-E"
on one side of the handle and "Barlow" on the other. At the base of the larger
blade it says "Imperial PROV RI". It looks like this one in a completed listing:
http://tinyurl.com/BarlowKnife

Chuck Taylor
north of Seattle

"What pocket knife do you carry every day?
Anyone here who doesn't carry one?"

I find that knives are like cats--- they live with you for a while, then they
die or go away, and they break your heart when they do. I'm still in mourning
for my last two carrying knives.

Sometime in the last year my usual carrying knife dropped out of my pocket. It's
a shock to me that I'd had it for around twenty-five years. Back in the 1980s I
started carrying a small fixed-blade work knife rather than a folding knife. The
usual one was a large McKay knife, not Dexter but maybe Hyde or Murphy

http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/leather-knives-
ss4.html">http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/leather-knives-ss4.html

I rehandled it with ebony, a bit wider and maybe shorter and a lot thinner, and
with a bit of checkering on it. Rust-blued the blade. Sheath like a Scandinavian
one, coming up over most of the handle. This sat in my right front pants pocket,
comfy and out of the way; I didn't actually need it often, but it was there.
Basically a bookbinding knife for me, though most of my bench knives are small
or medium McCays, rehandled because they come with what feel like chopped-off
broom handles. I still haven't replaced it with anything regular, my
subconscious still thinks it is there in my pocket.

About ten years ago, I'd guess, a friend of mine found me a not-a-gift sold-
for-a-penny pocket knife that he had found cheap and reconditioned for me. Three
blades, I think basically a "stockman" with two long blades and a pen blade.
Dark smooth wood scales, high carbon steel,old but plenty of life left. It
suited me down to the ground: I was even using it in paper restoration, for
paring paper and shaving off old adhesive tape residues and other incrustations.
That one went through a hole in the pocket. I still haven't had the heart to
tell my friend. I hope whoever found it appreciates it.

For maybe fifteen years before I started pocket-carrying a fixed-blade knife, I
carried one of two 4" lockblades sold-for-a-penny not-a-gifted to me by Hank
Reinhardt, who I had the privilege of corresponding with and knowing in my teens
and twenties, when I really needed it. At that point, in and fresh out of the
SCA, I was concerned with having something I could fight with if I needed to.
Not that I ever needed to: I've never looked like a victim. Nor does it concern
me now: I have a bad knee and carry a stick, and I'd rather have a stick than a
knife in a fight, any day. Still don't seem to look like a victim, though.

And before that, my usual pocket knives were single-bladed Case. I don't
remember the style name I liked, but I think it was one of their old classics,
now out of production, with a long slender blade (not a lockblade) and just one
bolster. Not a big load in the pocket, not a lot of extra crap like saws and
gimlets and buttonhooks, but an effective knife that didn't get in the way. I've
never seen the need for lots of blades.


I'm looking for a knife, in yard sales, but haven't found one that suited my
hand yet. At this point I think I'd prefer a medium-stockman type, three blades
including a pen, but I don't like the look of the variants Case does now. Or if
I could find one of the style I had in the '60s and middle '70s, with the narrow
blade; but that one is out of production, and anyway I don't like Case's current
choice of steels (chrome-vanadium and stainless). Like most everybody here I
feel a bit naked without a knife in my pocket (and a couple of bone folders
too); but I can live without one because I didn't actually use my pocket knife
very often. In due course I'll find one that sings in my hand and get it, and be
set up to have my heart broken again.


Tom Conroy

Galoots,
 
This is a topic near and dear to my heart.  I have carried a pocketknife daily
since I was a boy.  I am a long time devotee of Carl Schlieper Eye brand knives.
In case you are not familiar with it, it is a German made brand.  The one I
carry most week days to the office is a tiny toothpick pattern with stag
handles.  On weekends I usually carry  a copperhead pattern with yellow
composition handles.  I also have a Benchmade brand with the thumb opening tab
and pocket clip that I carry when working in the field.
 
Scott,
In sunny Accokeek, MD 
------------------------------------------------------------------------

> What pocket knife do you carry every day?
My daily knife is a lockable Gerber.  This knife is a gift from a friend who
knew she was going to die.  It is a duplicate ofa knife I had given her 25 years
earlier.  It had her place of work (life long career) etched on the blade but
all that remainsis a ghost of that image.  I was distressed to hear that any
lockable knife might be considered a deadly weapon.  This one has a 2 &  5/8th
inch blade and I believe that any sort of forensic examination would only show
my blood and a bunch of other pocket lint and work related debris.  I use it
multiple times a day for just about everything.

> Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?
Not yet.  With the Gerber I'd miss the plane before I abandoned the knife. chuck
------------------------------------------------------------------------

On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Chuck Ramsey  wrote:

>> Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?


In the mid-nineties I traveled from Delaware to Utah to work on a house with a
friend for just a weekend.  All I had was a carry-on and I had a couple of my
trusty tools in the bag - among them a great checkered wooden handled 20 oz rip
claw hammer, maker forgotten at this point.

I was told I couldn’t take the hammer on board and that the attendant would keep
it for me to pick up when I got back.  He stuck it under his desk.  Wouldn’t you
know it was still there when I got back!


Ed Minch

Now, you want to talk knives on planes, back in 1990 I was taking command of
USS HOUSTON SSN713 out in San Diego.  For those of you not familiar with
Navy Change of Command ceremonies, they are very formal affairs with dress
uniforms, medals, and swords.  We were living in Norfolk, VA at the time and
I had rushed cross-country without any of the required formal wear to do all
the turnover (It was a typical Navy last minute thing.)  SWMBO was tasked
with flying from Norfolk to San Diego with a 30 inch blade ceremonial sword
as carry-on luggage.  No problems; the stewardess (we were allowed to call
them that back then) took possession of it when Penny walked on the plane
and handed it to her when she walked off.  Try that today.

George Wallace
CDR USN (ret)

Author - Final Bearing, Firing Point, Operation Golden Dawn
  
 
6581 Braddock Rd
Alexandria, VA 22312
703-354-4647
415-672-0517 cell
georgew@r...
www.George-Wallace.com



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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:55 AM
To: Chuck Ramsey
Cc: the porch
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Pocket Knives - Derived from Honing Oil Thread


On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Chuck Ramsey  wrote:

>> Anyone ever had to leave theirs with the thugs at the airport?


In the mid-nineties I traveled from Delaware to Utah to work on a house with
a friend for just a weekend.  All I had was a carry-on and I had a couple of
my trusty tools in the bag - among them a great checkered wooden handled 20
oz rip claw hammer, maker forgotten at this point. 

I was told I couldn't take the hammer on board and that the attendant would
keep it for me to pick up when I got back.  He stuck it under his desk.
Wouldn't you know it was still there when I got back!


Ed Minch

Re: [OldTools] Pocket Knives - Derived from Honing Oil Thread


I bought my second SwAK (Swiss Army Knife) in a Sporting Goods store during
Christmas break 1987 near Big Mountain Ski Area, Montana (USA Jeff), having lost
my first one somewhere in the Middle East.  It is the "Camping" model -no longer
listed; and has  hack saw, and wood saw blade along with the usual suspects
(scissors, toothpick, 2 blades, two openers, etc).
It is in my pocket right now.  I keep telling myself to send it in for repair
(one of the scales (sides) is broken and glued on, the small blade is getting
short from too many sharpenings and the scissors spring is broken.  But I'm just
too attached to it to want to risk losing it or going without it for a few
weeks.  (maybe my misplaced wallet crowbar also has something to do with that).
Ren
dona nobis pacem

Redundancy, Dude!!!! You gotta have a standby. Nobody can live with just one
knife, can they????

On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Ren Tescher  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Re: [OldTools] Pocket Knives - Derived from Honing Oil Thread
> 
> 
> I bought my second SwAK (Swiss Army Knife) in a Sporting Goods store during
Christmas break 1987 near Big Mountain Ski Area, Montana (USA Jeff), having lost
my first one somewhere in the Middle East.  It is the "Camping" model -no longer
listed; and has  hack saw, and wood saw blade along with the usual suspects
(scissors, toothpick, 2 blades, two openers, etc).
> It is in my pocket right now.  I keep telling myself to send it in for repair
(one of the scales (sides) is broken and glued on, the small blade is getting
short from too many sharpenings and the scissors spring is broken.  But I'm just
too attached to it to want to risk losing it or going without it for a few
weeks.  (maybe my misplaced wallet crowbar also has something to do with that).
> Ren
> dona nobis pacem
> 
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Not me!  I ain't saying how many I own.  And who says I have enough??!!

Bruce Z.
Des Moines, IA

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 12:16 PM, JAMES THOMPSON  wrote:
> Redundancy, Dude!!!! You gotta have a standby. Nobody can live with just one
knife, can they????
>
> On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Ren Tescher  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Re: [OldTools] Pocket Knives - Derived from Honing Oil Thread
>>
>>
>> I bought my second SwAK (Swiss Army Knife) in a Sporting Goods store during
Christmas break 1987 near Big Mountain Ski Area, Montana (USA Jeff), having lost
my first one somewhere in the Middle East.  It is the "Camping" model -no longer
listed; and has  hack saw, and wood saw blade along with the usual suspects
(scissors, toothpick, 2 blades, two openers, etc).
>> It is in my pocket right now.  I keep telling myself to send it in for repair
(one of the scales (sides) is broken and glued on, the small blade is getting
short from too many sharpenings and the scissors spring is broken.  But I'm just
too attached to it to want to risk losing it or going without it for a few
weeks.  (maybe my misplaced wallet crowbar also has something to do with that).
>> Ren
>> dona nobis pacem
>>
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You know: I actually don't carry a pocket knife.  Maybe I'm


Ahoooogah!
  Emergency alert!! Galoot emergency alert!!

  This is not a drill. This is not a drill!

  Looks like the Western NY area.  Start focus men.
Close in from all sides.

  Yeah Buddy, you hang on, we got ya.


If he doesn't know his best pattern? (and there is  knife for you my 
friend.
believe me, there is a knife for you.)
  Somebody get over there and look at his life, and figure out the best 
pattern.
Look at his other stuff. See what he's into. What he uses a lot.

  Its NY, so crap, he's probably going to end up with something from 
Little Valley.
Where, some say, the best knives ever made were born.

  I need some little girls and a jump rope here,
       c'mon girls, help me out.........

     "   Catt-a-ra-gus,... Kin-folks,
  Case and New York Knife.

   Cami-llus and Ulster
  will help reduce your strife

         my Oh my

Somebody get Gary a pocketknife quick!
       yours Scott

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Oh, it's not that I don't -own- one, it's that I don't carry one!  I 
live in a fourteen room house and just took an informal census of two 
rooms. I found:

Scuba knife, two cold-war bayonets, a skinning knife with hook, a nice 
Gerber survival knife, four leatherman-type tools (one a SOG Paratool), 
a couple of cheap winchester folders, and last but far from least, a 
Sears 3-blade folder and a Case single-blade lock knife, both gifts from 
SWMBO.  (Uh, maybe Gary has a problem . . .)

I guess it's all too much to carry.  BTW, I've found that most old 
bayonets take a ridiculous beating and still come back for more. Talk 
about your informal froe!  I haven't used them for digging (much) and 
I've never mixed concrete with them, but beyond that, they've done 
everything I've asked with a smile.

But they're not in my pocket.  Almost never.

Gary Katsanis
Albion NY, USA
(slightly embarrassed because I don't own a single Camillus.  not even one!)

On 18-Oct-14 2:51 PM, scott grandstaff wrote:
>  You know: I actually don't carry a pocket knife.  Maybe I'm
>
>
> Ahoooogah!
>  Emergency alert!! Galoot emergency alert!!
>
>  This is not a drill. This is not a drill!
>
>  Looks like the Western NY area.  Start focus men.
> Close in from all sides.
>

> Perhaps there is a junior grade Galoot category we knifeless souls.

Yep.  Developmentally Delayed.

Running and ducking,
Mike in Sacto

The main reason why I never go anywhere without a knife is that I am constantly
doing things that cause crap to accumulate under my fingernails. I clean my
nails at least a dozen times a day. I couldn't clean them without a pocket
knife.

And then, I often go to a Chinese restaurant where they simply do not have any
knives. They think everything they serve can be eaten with chopsticks, which I
never mastered. I gotta cut that crap us so I can chew it, and that requires me
to have a knife in my pocket. I will admit that they look at me like a bull at a
bastard calf, but I gotta do what I gotta do.

Gee! I wonder if I am gonna die from germs getting on my food from my knife? Now
that I think of it, I never got sick, even in exotic places, from using a
bayonet to eat with, and that tool visited some strange places. It got wiped off
after use, but never washed or sanitized. Back in the day we never worried about
such stuff.

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Gary Katsanis  wrote:
> 
> Oh, it's not that I don't -own- one, it's that I don't carry one!  I live in a
fourteen room house and just took an informal census of two rooms. I found:
> 
> Scuba knife, two cold-war bayonets, a skinning knife with hook, a nice Gerber
survival knife, four leatherman-type tools (one a SOG Paratool), a couple of
cheap winchester folders, and last but far from least, a Sears 3-blade folder
and a Case single-blade lock knife, both gifts from SWMBO.  (Uh, maybe Gary has
a problem . . .)
> 
> I guess it's all too much to carry.  BTW, I've found that most old bayonets
take a ridiculous beating and still come back for more. Talk about your informal
froe!  I haven't used them for digging (much) and I've never mixed concrete with
them, but beyond that, they've done everything I've asked with a smile.
> 
> But they're not in my pocket.  Almost never.
> 
> Gary Katsanis
> Albion NY, USA
> (slightly embarrassed because I don't own a single Camillus.  not even one!)
> 
>> On 18-Oct-14 2:51 PM, scott grandstaff wrote:
>> You know: I actually don't carry a pocket knife.  Maybe I'm
>> 
>> 
>> Ahoooogah!
>> Emergency alert!! Galoot emergency alert!!
>> 
>> This is not a drill. This is not a drill!
>> 
>> Looks like the Western NY area.  Start focus men.
>> Close in from all sides.
> 
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> And then, I often go to a Chinese restaurant where they simply do not
> have any knives.

Once I was at a crab-feed where they didn't provide anything to crack 
the
leg shells.  Me and my Leatherman were very popular that night!

Mike in Sacto

Galoots,

OK, I guess it must be a Gary thing.  I also have and use them but don't
carry them in the pocket.  Have a CaseXX in the shop, a Swiss Arrny knife
upstairs, a Boy Scout knife i bought when I was a scout in the mid 60s in
my backpack for my commute (bicycle), and in the van is a leatherman, and a
Victronix with 3-1/2 inch lock blade, 4 inch saw blade,.  Oh, and there's
the gold knife on my pocket watch chain.

Gary Caron
York PA

On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Marvin Paisner  wrote:

> Galoots,
>
> Rest easy "Knifeless Souls" I'm covering for you, I always carry at least
> two knives. Sometimes three.
>
> To give this some context the second and third are the little Swiss Army
> Classic model, only a bit larger than 2" overall.  Always have one of those
> with me (usually in the watch pocket) and the other on my key ring when I'm
> away from home. The SAK Classic SD is actually a useful little tool with
> its scissors, nail file toothpick etc.
>
> My main carry varies, at home it's a SAK Farmer with its metal "Alox"
> scales.  Just super galootish knife to have around my rural acreage with
> its blade, wood saw, awl and screwdrivers. Great saw for small branches,
> and it's flush cutting. When I go to town the I find Farmer a bit bulky
> with keys and change in my pockets so I carry a Fallkniven U2.
>
> Hiking in the mountains I carry a larger belt or folding knife for self
> defense and SAKs come along for utility. We were expected to have a knife
> at work and I carried an original style Leatherman multi-tool which has
> lots of good features but a rather poor knife blade.
>
> Some Galoots confess to a saw problem, I confess to having been a knife
> "aquirer", (a few Benchmades & Spydercos in the mix) but my heart still
> melts when I pick up my old single blade I*XL by George Wostenholm,
> Sheffield. Twice lost and then found, blade worn down from sharpening,
> broken spring replaced and re-scaled with ebony. Paid $5 new in 1970 and
> carried for nearly 20 years in my pocket. Now that's a knife!
>
> Marv Paisner
> Kootenay Lake, BC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Livingston"
>
>  You are not alone. Perhaps there is a junior grade Galoot category we
>> knifeless souls.
>> Troy
>>
>
>  >On 10/18/2014 9:35 AM, Gary Katsanis wrote:
>>
>>> You know: I actually don't carry a pocket knife. Maybe I'm not a Galoot?
>>>
>>>
>
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On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:43 AM, Thomas Conroy  wrote:

> "What pocket knife do you carry every day?
> Anyone here who doesn't carry one?"
> 
> I find that knives are like cats--- they live with you for a while, then they
die or go away, and they break your heart when they do. I'm still in mourning
for my last two carrying knives.
> 
> Sometime in the last year my usual carrying knife dropped out of my pocket.
It's a shock to me that I'd had it for around twenty-five years. Back in the
1980s I started carrying a small fixed-blade work knife rather than a folding
knife. The usual one was a large McKay knife, not Dexter but maybe Hyde or
Murphy
> 
> http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/leather-knives-
ss4.html">http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/leather-knives-ss4.html

Earlier in this thread I commented on having found what I called a "pattern
maker's knives that have the blade that feeds thru the handle" and Tim has now
identified it for me. If you connect to his link  to murphyknives.com and go to
http://www.rmurphyknive
s.com/store/blades.html you will see pictured what they call Adjustable
Handle knives & blades. However, they are now only offering the blades. Noodling
about the net I found one listing for the Murphy knife but it is marked as
discontinued. You can find them in aluminum, but it appears the nice heavy brass
framed ones are only going to be available on the old tool market. Glad I
finally found one at a bottom feeder's price.

Bill, whose most used shop knife is a 20+ years old Spyderco serrated edge that
has been sharpened past the serrations.

On 10/19/2014 6:15 AM, William Ghio wrote:
> Earlier in this thread I commented on having found what I called a "pattern
maker's knives that have the blade that feeds thru the handle" and Tim has now
identified it for me. If you connect to his link  to murphyknives.com and go tohttp://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/blades.html">tohttp://www.rmurphykniv
es.com/store/blades.html  you will see pictured what they call Adjustable
Handle knives & blades. However, they are now only offering the blades. Noodling
about the net I found one listing for the Murphy knife but it is marked as
discontinued. You can find them in aluminum, but it appears the nice heavy brass
framed ones are only going to be available on the old tool market. Glad I
finally found one at a bottom feeder's price.

Murphy Knives list the aluminum-handles version mill knife here: 
http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/mill-
knives.html">http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/mill-knives.html

Don

Bill Ghio wrote: "Earlier in this thread I commented on having found what I
called a "pattern maker's knives that have the blade that feeds thru the handle"
and Tim has now identified it for me. If you connect to his link  to
murphyknives.com and go to http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/blades.ht
ml">http://www.rmurphyknives.com/store/blades.html you will see pictured
what they call Adjustable Handle knives & blades. However, they are now only
offering the blades. Noodling about the net I found one listing for the Murphy
knife but it is marked as discontinued. You can find them in aluminum, but it
appears the nice heavy brass framed ones are only going to be available on the
old tool market. Glad I finally found one at a bottom feeder's price."

I first encountered the blades as "mill knife blades," back in the early 1980s,
being sold by a Boston bindery and binders' supplier. I love the brass handles
and have seen them once or twice in flea markets, but I've never laid down the
money for one because they force you to use a fist grip and I'd rather use the
blade bare with my fingers. The aluminum ones just bug me; I don't want an
aluminum handle on anything.

Tom Conroy
Berkeley

Speaking of pocket knives,  today,  I purchased on Opinel No. 08 today.
Interesting knife dressing with the barrel lock mechanism.

Doc

I hope you got the carbone far more galootish than the Stainless
Steel 

	 

	Neil

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 Speaking of pocket knives, today, I purchased on Opinel No. 08 today.
 Interesting knife dressing with the barrel lock mechanism.

 Doc
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Neil,

That is correct.   It is carbon steel and not stainless.

Doc
On Oct 19, 2014 5:32 PM,  wrote:

>  I hope you got the carbone far more galootish than the Stainless Steel
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> "John Holladay" 
>
> To:
> "Don Schwartz" 
> Cc:
> "Old Tools" 
> Sent:
> Sun, 19 Oct 2014 14:53:25 -0500
> Subject:
> Re: [OldTools] Pocket Knives - Derived from Honing Oil Thread
>
>
> Speaking of pocket knives, today, I purchased on Opinel No. 08 today.
> Interesting knife dressing with the barrel lock mechanism.
>
> Doc
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