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250392 Guy in Florida <mill15716athollow@g...> 2014‑09‑13 How much is it REALLY worth?
Hey all!

I know we're not supposed to mention eBay auctions on Oldtools,
but I think in this case there's little risk of increased competition.
In all honest, what is a REALISTIC price for this Mathieson mitre plane?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=ite
m20ebfa6326">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-
Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item20ebfa6326

I'm just curious.
Lou
250393 CheekyGeek <cheekygeek@g...> 2014‑09‑13 Re: How much is it REALLY worth?
Harrison Ford would pay that. I'll see if I can get him the link.



A man understands one day that his life is built on nothing, and that's a
bad, crazy day. - Cosmo Castorini, Moonstruck

On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Guy in Florida  wrote:

> Hey all!
>
> I know we're not supposed to mention eBay auctions on Oldtools,
> but I think in this case there's little risk of increased competition.
> In all honest, what is a REALISTIC price for this Mathieson mitre plane?
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=ite
m20ebfa6326">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-
Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item20ebfa6326
>
> I'm just curious.
> Lou
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250394 Ben <benbelzer@h...> 2014‑09‑13 RE: How much is it REALLY worth?
If it went for that much it'd be among the highest priced tools ever sold.  I'm
guessing AT BEST it'd get half that price, but since tool prices have (for the
most part) been slowly and steadily dropping for a while now, I'd think it would
more realistically go for $2,000 to $5,000 USD if sold without reserve.  This
is, of course, just a guess...
  -Ben


> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:44:15 -0400
> From: mill15716athollow@g...
> To: OldTools@r...
> CC: 
> Subject: [OldTools] How much is it REALLY worth?
> 
> Hey all!
> 
> I know we're not supposed to mention eBay auctions on Oldtools,
> but I think in this case there's little risk of increased competition.
> In all honest, what is a REALISTIC price for this Mathieson mitre plane?
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=ite
m20ebfa6326">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-
Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item20ebfa6326
> 
> I'm just curious.
> Lou

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250395 Tony Blanks <dynnyrne@i...> 2014‑09‑13 Re: How much is it REALLY worth?
Lou wrote,  in part:

> In all honest, what is a REALISTIC price for this Mathieson mitre plane?
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=ite
m20ebfa6326">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-
Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item20ebfa6326
>
> I'm just curious.
> Lou
  A realistic price is whatever you can get for something on the day you 
really MUST sell it.

This seller has been around for a while, always offering very well 
presented tools in very good to fine condition, with a "buy it now" 
price between 1.5 and 4 times the price at which I would top out if my 
life depended on buying what he offered.  At least that is so with the 
Edw. Preston and Sons tools he offers from time to time.

His listings hang around for quite a while, some for several months, 
from which I infer two things:

- that he is in no hurry to get his money, and,

- eventually he gets an offer close to what he really expects or hopes for.

I suspect that a high "buy it now" price  acts at some level to raise 
the impression in a bidder's mind that the tool is probably worth 
somewhere in the vicinity of that price. Imagine  realtor listing a 
house worth $200K for $250K so that the prospective buyer can beat the 
price down $30K and feel like he has had a win.

But back to your question: "what is a REALISTIC price"?  To me, given 
the number of times I have had a job held up for want of a heavy infill 
mitre plane: $0

To heave at one of the wallabies which feed on my front lawn every 
night?  A couple of bucks, but pebbles are free.

To a collector of Mathieson tools?  Depends if he has long arms, deep 
pockets and a hole in the collection which only this plane will fill.

For what its worth, if you believe the sellers spiel, I'd wait until the 
2nd example of this model comes up.  This is a shoddily constructed 
example: the maker couldn't be bothered "clocking" the screws pinning 
the infill.  Poor workmanship.  Makes me wonder if it was skimped 
anywhere else?

Usual disclaimers: I have never bought nor bid on any of this seller's 
tools though I admit to having admired one or two!  And no-one is 
forcing me to pay his prices.

Cheers,

Tony B
Hobart Tasmania.
250397 Spike Cornelius <spikethebike@c...> 2014‑09‑13 Re: How much is it REALLY worth?
In addition to what has been posted, the sole is in sad shape! I have a copy of
a Spiers miter similar to that which I assembled myself, and it works a treat.
The value for me is as a working tool, and I believe that my home made one will
do whatever that one will do, with the added satisfaction of it having come from
my own hands.
 YMMV, of course!!
 

Sent from the seat of my pants

> On Sep 13, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Guy in Florida  wrote:
> 
> Hey all!
> 
> I know we're not supposed to mention eBay auctions on Oldtools,
> but I think in this case there's little risk of increased competition.
> In all honest, what is a REALISTIC price for this Mathieson mitre plane?
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=ite
m20ebfa6326">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-
Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item20ebfa6326
> 
>
250398 Guy in Florida <mill15716athollow@g...> 2014‑09‑13 Re: How much is it REALLY worth?
"To heave at one of the wallabies which feed on my front lawn every
night?  A couple of bucks, but pebbles are free."

I'd like to take a pot shot at some wallabies!

Do you think there are any thylacines, still hiding in the bush?



On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Tony Blanks  wrote:
> Lou wrote,  in part:
>
>> In all honest, what is a REALISTIC price for this Mathieson mitre plane?
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=ite
m20ebfa6326">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Alexander-Mathieson-Co-Early-
Dovetailed-Mitre-
Plane-/141398008614?pt=UK_Collectable_ToolsHasdware_RL&hash=item20ebfa6326
>>
>> I'm just curious.
>> Lou
>
>  A realistic price is whatever you can get for something on the day you
> really MUST sell it.
>
> This seller has been around for a while, always offering very well presented
> tools in very good to fine condition, with a "buy it now" price between 1.5
> and 4 times the price at which I would top out if my life depended on buying
> what he offered.  At least that is so with the Edw. Preston and Sons tools
> he offers from time to time.
>
> His listings hang around for quite a while, some for several months, from
> which I infer two things:
>
> - that he is in no hurry to get his money, and,
>
> - eventually he gets an offer close to what he really expects or hopes for.
>
> I suspect that a high "buy it now" price  acts at some level to raise the
> impression in a bidder's mind that the tool is probably worth somewhere in
> the vicinity of that price. Imagine  realtor listing a house worth $200K for
> $250K so that the prospective buyer can beat the price down $30K and feel
> like he has had a win.
>
> But back to your question: "what is a REALISTIC price"?  To me, given the
> number of times I have had a job held up for want of a heavy infill mitre
> plane: $0
>
> To heave at one of the wallabies which feed on my front lawn every night?  A
> couple of bucks, but pebbles are free.
>
> To a collector of Mathieson tools?  Depends if he has long arms, deep
> pockets and a hole in the collection which only this plane will fill.
>
> For what its worth, if you believe the sellers spiel, I'd wait until the 2nd
> example of this model comes up.  This is a shoddily constructed example: the
> maker couldn't be bothered "clocking" the screws pinning the infill.  Poor
> workmanship.  Makes me wonder if it was skimped anywhere else?
>
> Usual disclaimers: I have never bought nor bid on any of this seller's tools
> though I admit to having admired one or two!  And no-one is forcing me to
> pay his prices.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tony B
> Hobart Tasmania.
250403 "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq" <rohrabacher@e...> 2014‑09‑14 Re: How much is it REALLY worth?
Well the definitive answer is that  it is worth what one can sell it for 
or what one will pay for it.
So if you have a slice of toasted bread with the face of Jesus (the guy 
who mows my lawn) on it and you can cozen  some fool on the Flea bay to 
give you a king's ransom for it then god bless you and  I hope you get 
another such piece of toast soon.

I have an old Walker Turner Driver line lathe for sale on the Flea bay 
and I have not had even a nibble so I'm guessing I am asking too much.
250411 "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq" <rohrabacher@e...> 2014‑09‑14 Re: How much is it REALLY worth?
On 9/13/2014 7:45 PM, Guy in Florida wrote:
> Do you think there are any thylacines, still hiding in the bush?


We have them in abundance here in NJ USA up around Hoboken and Teaneck

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