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249565 | Thomas Conroy <booktoolcutter@y...> | 2014‑07‑27 | "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
O Galoots: Yard sale four blocks from my house today. I got a MF ratcheting screwdriver and a North Bros. 30A. The 30A is supposed to be non-quick-return, but my new one does have a spring and the screw pops out when you release the latch. However, its a weak screw, whether from metal fatigue or because it was made that way. So what goes? Did the non-quick-return "Yankees" ever have a spring, just a weak one? Or is this some kind of user modification or aftermarket upgrade? FWIW, this 30A has a brass frame with the remains of a black paint job on it. On the other hand, it has a 1923 patent date as part of the mark. Do these details together help to date it? Tom Conroy Berkeley |
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249566 | JAMES THOMPSON <oldmillrat@m...> | 2014‑07‑27 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
Remove the spring and stretch it about 10% longer without tension. That should restore the action. If not, stretch it again. On Jul 27, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Thomas Conroy |
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249568 | Thomas Conroy <booktoolcutter@y...> | 2014‑07‑27 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
Thanks, Jim. I'm glad to learn what to do to restore the action. But I'm still puzzled by a 30A having a spring at all, since its the non-quick-return type. I have a MF non-quick-return spiral ratcheting screwdriver, and it has no spring at all, not a lazy one. Tom Conroy Jim Thompson wrote: > Remove the spring and stretch it about 10% longer without tension. That should > restore the action. If not, stretch it again. |
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249569 | Thomas Conroy <booktoolcutter@y...> | 2014‑07‑27 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
Thanks, Jim. I'm glad to learn what to do to restore the action. But I'm still puzzled by a 30A having a spring at all, since its the non-quick-return type. I have a MF non-quick-return spiral ratcheting screwdriver, and it has no spring at all, not a lazy one. Tom Conroy Jim Thompson wrote: > Remove the spring and stretch it about 10% longer without tension. That should > restore the action. If not, stretch it again. |
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249573 | Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> | 2014‑07‑28 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Thomas Conroy |
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249574 | Thomas Conroy <booktoolcutter@y...> | 2014‑07‑28 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
That's it. Armored by Kirk's tacit assurance that opening the hnadle wouldn's sent fifty million watch parts spraying all over the room, never to be recovered or put back together again, I opened up my new 30A and looked at the spring. Then I opened a 131A and looked at the spring of that. The new screwdriver's spring is the right diameter, but its only about half the length it should be, and it lacks the "spring plug." Apparently someone did the best conversion he could with the materials at hand. It shouldn't be that hard to find a spring that will do a better job, just as soon as I find a spring store in my neighborhood. And that's something I will certainly do, just as soon as I get a round tooit. Yep, it'll get done soon. Well, it'll get done. Someday. Thanks, Kirk, Tom Conroy Berkeley Kirk Eppler wrote: > >The parts list for the 30A and 130A are identical, except the 130A includes a #24 Spring in Handle, and #8 Spring Plug (collared at the far end, then cylindrical, then a tapered tip toward where the spring goes). This sits in the tail end of the handle, and keeps the spring in line? > > >I just took my 130A apart (Div of Stanley Works), and the spring is about 7" long... > >Since the spring was available as a spare, maybe someone added it. Do you have the plug noted above? Maybe its the right spring without the plug, or maybe the wrong spring. |
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249586 | <ruby@m...> | 2014‑07‑28 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:02:13 -0700 Did the non-quick-return "Yankees" ever have a > spring, just a weak one? Or is this some kind of user > modification or aftermarket upgrade? tom You could buy them either way. I learnt from an old gut who had of the giant ones and he used to install door hinges. I liked it and bought one at a flea, but he said "Oh, I see you got one with a spring" after I buggered a surface. Ed Minch --------------------------------------------------------------------- Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ |
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249592 | Don Schwartz <dks@t...> | 2014‑07‑29 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
On 7/28/2014 3:35 PM, ruby@m... wrote: > You could buy them either way. I learnt from an old gut > who had of the giant ones and he used to install door > hinges. I liked it and bought one at a flea, but he said > "Oh, I see you got one with a spring" after I buggered a > surface. > > Ed Minch FWIW, it seems to me this would not be a problem if you are using Robertson screws. Don |
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249593 | Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> | 2014‑07‑29 | Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Kirk Eppler |
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249597 | Steve Reynolds <s.e.reynolds@v...> | 2014‑07‑29 | Re: Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
On 07/29/14, Don Schwartz wrote: On 7/28/2014 3:35 PM, ruby@m... wrote: > You could buy them either way. I learnt from an old gut > who had of the giant ones and he used to install door > hinges. I liked it and bought one at a flea, but he said > "Oh, I see you got one with a spring" after I buggered a > surface. > > Ed Minch FWIW, it seems to me this would not be a problem if you are using Robertson screws. |
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249598 | Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> | 2014‑07‑29 | Re: Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
Ya - I think the problem comes in when you depend on the spring to hold the business end of the driver in the screw recess rather than holding it there with your free, non-driving hand. Not having the spring requires that you do so, while with the spring you may be tempted to multitask with the free hand and end up with unintended decorations in the wood around the screw head. Phil On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Steve Reynolds |
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249599 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> | 2014‑07‑29 | Re: Re: "YANKEE" screwdriver questions |
I actually have one each of these with & without the spring. I prefer the spring version for use with a counter sink bit or driving a drill bit. For driving screws, I prefer the non-specific version for the reasons Phil describes. It's just easier to keep it engaged in the screw and to control things. Doc On Jul 29, 2014 8:57 AM, "Phil Schempf" |
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