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249462 Jesse Walker <jwalker147@h...> 2014‑07‑25 $25 Gloat, Mystery Tool, and Question about a (Possibly) Incorrectly Ground/Machined Drill Bearing
Galoots,

See the two sets of pictures in the album linked below:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-
g5LlyKENxQRDFGWlJUclhEM1U&usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/folderview?id
=0B-g5LlyKENxQRDFGWlJUclhEM1U&usp=sharing

I bought all of the tools grouped together for $25 yesterday, and am fairly
pleased.  The older Stanley block plane has some broken/missing pieces, but
is still functional.  It might be a prime candidate for a "Scott special"
conversion (adding a tote handle, etc.)  The larger pair of scissors are
Case brand, and the marking gauge is dated '86.  The push drill is a Yankee
131, not bad for $2.

The prize in my opinion is the piece holding the file, I think it's purpose
is to file the edge of a scraper blade square before burnishing.


Does anyone know what the E C Atkins mystery tool is?


The giant drill isn't functional, it was advertised as "not turning" or
something, but I thought I could fix it.  I think the problem is that the
one of the gears (the second picture shows the drill with only one
installed, I took the second one off because it was locked up) was ground
incorrectly on the inner diameter (ID).  I think the bearing sleeve is
tapered, and the gear was taper ground from the wrong side.  Instead of
scrapping the gear and admitting his mistake, the assembly line worker just
shoved it on, and shipped it.

See the third picture, where the gear can't be installed fully without
excessive force.  In this position, it is really hard to turn.  If you
install the gear on the opposite direction, it goes on and spins freely.
 However, in this configuration, it won't mesh with the main gear unless I
drill a new hole, and ream it out to match the taper pin.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?  I'd like to get the
ID of the gear reground, but this might make it too big for the sleeve it's
riding on.  I don't like the idea of drilling a new hole for the taper pin
in the main shaft.


I wish I could just say "Scott, it's headed your way, please fix it and
send it back in a flat rate box full of Manzanita!"


Jesse
249465 Michael Blair <branson2@s...> 2014‑07‑25 Re: $25 Gloat, Mystery Tool, and Question about a (Possibly) Incorrectly Ground/Machined Drill Bearing
> The prize in my opinion is the piece holding the file, I think it's 
> purpose
> is to file the edge of a scraper blade square before burnishing.

It could do that, but it's a tool for jointing a saw blade before 
sharpening.
You've seen those saws that are beginning to look like a crescent moon?  
That
comes from sharpening without jointing the saw first.

The other item of great interest is "the marking gauge is dated '86."  
See the
two humps on the fence?  That gauge is for scribing a line on a curved 
surface.
I've seen exactly one in the wild, and it resides in my marking gauge 
drawer.
When you need one, nothing else will do.  Well, you *can* drive a couple 
of
upholstery tacks in the face of a regular gauge.  I had to do that for a
couple of jobs before I found mine.  These are a lot more scarce than a
saw jointer.

Good job.

Mike in Sacto
249480 Jerry Davis <jwd@u...> 2014‑07‑25 Re: $25 Gloat, Mystery Tool, and Question about a (Possibly) Incorrectly Ground/Machined Drill Bearing
On 7/24/2014 11:54:48 PM Jesse Walker  wrote:

> Does anyone know what the E C Atkins mystery tool is?

It's a guide for setting the teeth on big crosscut saws.  The guide is
laid on a tree stump, the saw is laid on top the guide and the saw teeth
are bent with a hammer to match the angle of the guide.

There's an illustration of its use in the Crosscut Saw Manual.  Type
"crosscut saw manual' into an Internet search engine and one of the
results should be a link to a pdf of the manual.

Jerry
Griffin, GA
249532 Gary Roberts <toolemera@m...> 2014‑07‑27 Re: $25 Gloat, Mystery Tool, and Question about a (Possibly) Incorrectly Ground/Machined Drill Bearing
The other E C Atkins gadget is also for setting big crosscut saws. Or at least I
seem to remember it as such.

You’ve a nice Ohio 05 Jack plane too.

The drill is another thing. That could be the prize once it’s up and running.
Does it have any information on the chuck or elsewhere?

Gary
...............................
Gary Roberts
http://toolemera.com
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On Jul 24, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Jesse Walker  wrote:

> Galoots,
> 
> See the two sets of pictures in the album linked below:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-
g5LlyKENxQRDFGWlJUclhEM1U&usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/folderview?id
=0B-g5LlyKENxQRDFGWlJUclhEM1U&usp=sharing
> 
> I bought all of the tools grouped together for $25 yesterday, and am fairly
> pleased.  The older Stanley block plane has some broken/missing pieces, but
> is still functional.  It might be a prime candidate for a "Scott special"
> conversion (adding a tote handle, etc.)  The larger pair of scissors are
> Case brand, and the marking gauge is dated '86.  The push drill is a Yankee
> 131, not bad for $2.
> 
> The prize in my opinion is the piece holding the file, I think it's purpose
> is to file the edge of a scraper blade square before burnishing.
> 
> 
> Does anyone know what the E C Atkins mystery tool is?
> 
> 
> The giant drill isn't functional, it was advertised as "not turning" or
> something, but I thought I could fix it.  I think the problem is that the
> one of the gears (the second picture shows the drill with only one
> installed, I took the second one off because it was locked up) was ground
> incorrectly on the inner diameter (ID).  I think the bearing sleeve is
> tapered, and the gear was taper ground from the wrong side.  Instead of
> scrapping the gear and admitting his mistake, the assembly line worker just
> shoved it on, and shipped it.
> 
> See the third picture, where the gear can't be installed fully without
> excessive force.  In this position, it is really hard to turn.  If you
> install the gear on the opposite direction, it goes on and spins freely.
> However, in this configuration, it won't mesh with the main gear unless I
> drill a new hole, and ream it out to match the taper pin.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?  I'd like to get the
> ID of the gear reground, but this might make it too big for the sleeve it's
> riding on.  I don't like the idea of drilling a new hole for the taper pin
> in the main shaft.
> 
> 
> I wish I could just say "Scott, it's headed your way, please fix it and
> send it back in a flat rate box full of Manzanita!"
> 
> 
> Jesse
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