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233556 <harperron@c...> Oct-08-2012 I just woke up
Lots of talk lately on the net about grinding both hand and otherwise.  Ok you
build a nice little tool rest for your hand grinder, or if you are fortunate you
have one for your grinder. How does one keep the bevel uniform? We see pics of
wondrously talented galoots doing this freehand.  I ain't that good. Many of us
have the eclipse style "training wheel" honing guide. Very effective when held
against the tool rest on my grinder. Allows me to grind a uniform bevel on
chisels and plane irons. Why didn't you tell me this years ago?

Ron a Kokomo Galoot  who honed a bunch of stuff today.

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233559 Don Schwartz <dkschwar@t...> Oct-08-2012 Re: I just woke up
On 10/8/2012 4:38 PM, harperron@c... wrote:
> Lots of talk lately on the net about grinding both hand and otherwise.  Ok you
build a nice little tool rest for your hand grinder, or if you are fortunate you
have one for your grinder. How does one keep the bevel uniform? We see pics of
wondrously talented galoots doing this freehand.  I ain't that good. Many of us
have the eclipse style "training wheel" honing guide. Very effective when held
against the tool rest on my grinder. Allows me to grind a uniform bevel on
chisels and plane irons. Why didn't you tell me this years ago?
<snick>
Especially good for short chisels & spokeshave irons, I'm thinking.

FWIW
Don

-- 
"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without 
evidence." Christopher Hitchens, 2007
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233563 "Cliff Rohrabacher Esq." <rohrab Oct-08-2012 Re: I just woke up
It's been my experience not ever having used any kind of guide,  that If 
I remove the tool from the   grinder I  lay it back at a slightly 
different angle.
ERGO: you need to have a slow wheel which won't heat things up much and 
just keep it in place or if you are using power use a water  drip.
If I'm on the hand stone I  just keep my body position  and arms 
consistent  and "feel" the contact of the bevel to the stone. I can tell 
if I've got it right.
However, all things being equal the prettiness of the grind is pretty 
much irrelevant. It's that last bit  at the edge that really matters.

On 10/8/2012 6:38 PM, harperron@c... wrote:
> Lots of talk lately on the net about grinding both hand and otherwise.  Ok you
build a nice little tool rest for your hand grinder, or if you are fortunate you
have one for your grinder. How does one keep the bevel uniform? We see pics of
wondrously talented galoots doing this freehand.  I ain't that good. Many of us
have the eclipse style "training wheel"
>   honing guide. Very effective when held against the tool rest on my grinder.
Allows me to grind a uniform bevel on chisels and plane irons. Why didn't you
tell me this years ago?
>
> Ron a Kokomo Galoot  who honed a bunch of stuff today.
>
> Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App
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233566 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> Oct-08-2012 Re: I just woke up
And this is the reason why I preach to the multitudes that verily you must find
the correct position for the tool and your fingers at the tool rest, and never
release your grip on the tool, even while cooling it. By holding the tool firmly
and not letting go, you can return the tool to the correct position every time.

Also sprach Zarasthustra. (Thus spake Zarasthustra.)

On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher Esq. wrote:

> It's been my experience not ever having used any kind of guide,  that If I
remove the tool from the   grinder I  lay it back at a slightly different angle.

James Thompson, the Old Millrat in Riverside CA

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233579 Ken Shepard <waruba@c...> Oct-09-2012 Re: I just woke up
Joel at Tools for Working Wood has posted a very interesting article on
grinding using a cambered wheel.  Think I'll give it a try.

http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/store/blog/453/title/Further%20Thoughts%20On%20Grinding

Or

http://tinyurl.com/8b99rps
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Ken Shepard

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM, James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> wrote:

> And this is the reason why I preach to the multitudes that verily you must
> find the correct position for the tool and your fingers at the tool rest,
> and never release your grip on the tool, even while cooling it. By holding
> the tool firmly and not letting go, you can return the tool to the correct
> position every time.
>
> Also sprach Zarasthustra. (Thus spake Zarasthustra.)
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Cliff Rohrabacher Esq. wrote:
>
> > It's been my experience not ever having used any kind of guide,  that If
> I remove the tool from the   grinder I  lay it back at a slightly different
> angle.
>
>
>
> James Thompson, the Old Millrat in Riverside CA
>
>
>
>
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