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233458 Phil Koontz <phil.koontz@g...> Oct-05-2012 Bottom feeder request
Hi all--

I don't post much, basically for lack of anything appropriate to add
to the conversation.  This year, the big local project has been
building a house for some friends.  They moved into it this week, so
the fruits of our logging trip last spring have already come to hand.
And it went really well.  So well in fact, that I and the rest of the
local colony of wood butchers are already looking forward to next
year's trip.  And that's even though we still have the entire winter
to get through.

Oddly, I'm here today looking for hammers; cheap claw hammers in
particular.  The reason is that I bought a few nice ones this year,
and I don't want them to end up at the bottom of the Yukon.

Some of you may recall that one of our annual rituals with logging on
the river is that we always, ALWAYS toss in a few hammers.  Usually
it's just a simple accident--someone will be on the raft nailing the
logs together with strapping and the hammer just disappears.  Last
season, our young newby tossed one hammer in on the downswing, and the
next one seconds later, on the backswing.  Those were the last two of
a good score I made at a local yard sale years ago, when I bought four
or five junkers for a buck each.  After the cheapies were gone, we had
a choice of letting good tools go out on the raft, or of using a
plastic mallet for driving 16d nails.  There was one memorable year
when we didn't lose any tools on the job, but the Karma payback was so
bad that we decided to toss a few tools in the river as a ritual
sacrifice for our deliverance during an incident that involved Big
Eddie, a windy day, and a disintegrating log raft.  For those who
tuned in recently, the story is in the archives at
http://swingleydev.com/archive/get.php?message_id=192590&submit_thread=1#message

For next year, I bought a recovery magnet (it might help), but the
local supply of junk claw hammers seems to have finally been depleted.
 It occurred to me that the OT list is a pretty good place to look for
user tools, bottom feeder tool (get it?), and for a few people who
might actually prefer to toss some of their crappy tools in the Yukon.
 If you are in the last group, we have a common interest.  What I
would prefer is something with at least part of both claws, a useable
handle, and moderate weight, say 12 to 20 ounces.

There's no hurry on this issue, and it's probably worth looking around
for some way to save on postage, so if anybody has a collection of
worthless junk to dispose of, so much the better.

I see that I don't have any recent pics of the house project.  There
are a few in-progress shots at
http://pdknz.livejournal.com/144498.html

As it turns out, the camera is in town with SWMBO, but I'll get some
more pics posted after she gets back.  Galootie fieatures--we cut all
the trees, floated them down the river, milled them, and built the
entire house since June.  It's almost entirely local wood, the only
exception being some plywood in the floor.  It's insulated for our
winters (circa -50F), heated with a wood stove, and built entirely by
amateur labor.

Thanks and hi from down river,

PK
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233459 Micah Salb <msalb@l...> Oct-05-2012 RE: Bottom feeder request
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233468 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> Oct-06-2012 Re: Bottom feeder request
Hey Phil
  Well you know I love ya. Always encourage your adventures and would 
want to support them.

  But rounding up, boxing and mailing hammers from the low 48
  ( --My-- shop!?!?! ) so you can intentionally throw them in the river?

  Dude, how about a Harbor Freight coupon?
   I don't traffic in disposable tools.

  How about a sack of rocks you can throw (ancient tool) and a lanyard 
to lash your hammer to any likely wrist.
  yours Scott

-- 
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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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233471 "Dave Nighswander" <wishingstarf Oct-06-2012 Re: Bottom feeder request
Might I suggest a couple wooden mallets?

Snip
-----Original Message----- 
From: scott grandstaff 

  How about a sack of rocks you can throw (ancient tool) and a lanyard 
to lash your hammer to any likely wrist.
  yours Scott
Unsnip
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233472 "Andy Baughn" <badandy@m...> Oct-06-2012 RE: Bottom feeder request
I once had some wrenches that ended up in my workbench years ago. The
only good thing about them was that they were bendable and could be made
into crows foot wrenches easily. Wouldn't be a big loss to lose those in
the river. Or those 'tools' from the Dollar Tree.

Bad Andy

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233478 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> Oct-06-2012 Re: Bottom feeder request

  Phil
  I think you just need to "get to know" your spirits.

  I lived with a ghost for 7 years. Nobody in the world could have 
convinced me ghosts could be real. Until I met one.

   Her name was Sarah. I loved her. She was wonderful! Impish, funny, 
goofy even.
  I began to know her long before I knew who she was. I began to like 
her too. She would brush past your face enough to no kidding feel it 
right now, if you ignored her for too long.

  After some years I found a little protected grave long overgrown in 
the brush, and began to find out who she really had been. I already knew 
who she was.

  Sarah didn't want "stuff".  My stuff did her no good at all.
  She would think you totally butt pitiful crazy if you sacrificed a 
hammer to her.
  Look at you like you done lost your mind, boy!!
   You think her a fool? Did you?
  She'd kick your ass you treat her like a fool. And she was the girl 
with the boots,..... you screw around too much.

   She wanted the attention. She wanted the acceptance. She wanted to 
feel and even be included.
   Not kiss-up and phony, more like when the crap is on the griddle and 
you feel something against your back? And its her back looking out for 
you the other way? And you just relax into the security of someone 
looking out for you, and you for her??
  Things like this.

  If you want your spirits to watch and help you, bribery is for shit. 
Give them their due. Give them respect. Give them attention. Make them 
know you know that they are there, and you are counting on them. Let 
them know you are looking out for their interests too.

  Look forward to them instead of cowering, which nobody likes.
  Thank them and bid a hearty goodbye at the end.

  Then, you got friends you can count on.
      yours Scott

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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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233479 WesG <wesg@g...> Oct-06-2012 Re: Bottom feeder request
Scott whatever you're having; you should be sharing the recipe with the
rest of us. Hehehehe. Wes

On Oct 6, 2012, at 5:02 PM, scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> wrote:

> I lived with a ghost for 7 years. Nobody in the world could have
> convinced me ghosts could be real. Until I met one.
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233491 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> Oct-06-2012 Re: Bottom feeder request
Hey Wes
  Its not a what, its a where.
  18 miles downriver from Camp. Its an old place called Beck's Ranch. 
Becks were a large family here.

  Its 40 acres with riverfront for 1/4 mile. A large rich orchard of 
apples, pears and quince, and a very large, very cold bubbling spring 
that comes direct from the snow capped peaks. It never runs dry, even in 
the worst drought.
   It gushes out from under a high rock schist, uphill from the 
property, so you have free gravity water pressure.
  Yes, you can bathe, and wash your car, and water your flowers in water 
others can't pay enough money to get.

  There is an old cabin in as bad a shape now, as when I first saw it 35 
years ago. It gets like this when no one lives there long enough.
  But the bones are still there and you can have it cozy again. I did 
it, you can too. Its nestled in the myrtle trees so you never suffer the 
worst summer heat.

   There is no electricity that far out though, and no phone.
  But there are a few neighbors within several miles, and they are good 
people you will be glad to know.
  And one playful, wonderful ghost.

  Don't take my word for it. Go and meet her for yourself.
  You just move in, and be yourself. She'll come round. She knows who's 
worth talking to. And you'll do.

  Sarah Goodwin. Tell her I sent you.
    yours Scott

On 10/6/2012 3:12 PM, WesG wrote:
> Scott whatever you're having; you should be sharing the recipe with the rest
of us.
> Hehehehe.
> Wes
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2012, at 5:02 PM, scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> wrote:
>
>
>> I lived with a ghost for 7 years. Nobody in the world could have convinced me
ghosts could be real. Until I met one.
>
>
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    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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233571 Ed Bell <neanderman@f...> Oct-09-2012 Re: Bottom feeder request
On 10/5/2012 5:45 PM, Micah Salb wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Phil
Koontz
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 5:36 PM
> To: oldtools@r...
> Subject: [OldTools] Bottom feeder request
>
> Hi all--
>
> <snip>
>
> ...bottom feeder tools (get it?)....
>
> <snip>
>
> OK, this crosses the line.
>
Line? There's a line? Oh dear...

Ed
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