Cliff Rohrabacher Esq. wrote:
>However that's a litigation waiting to happen.
I'm not trying to sue them, so the folks on the bar can take a
deep breath ;)

Kirk Eppler grumpily wrote:
> Aren't the directions something simple like
>
> Wet (squeeze out excess water), Erase
>
> With a warning not to use on certain surfaces, or with bleach.

Possibly, but my battery charger also mentions I shouldn't put it's
electrodes in water. And I use more milk and less margarine than the
mac'n'cheese box says. There's a difference between following
instructions on a box and noticing a hazard. When using something as
unintended common sense has to kick in. My common sense was that there
was no finite powder when I'd used it at varying degrees of dampness and
it broke off in large chunks. So, when significantly different in the
dry state I was a bit surprised. When I use other very common household
items dry rather than wet they don't have problems.

I'm not starting a protest or saying it shouldn't be used and taken off
the shelves. I'm just alerting others that might be inclined to use them
wet or dry that they need to be more careful than they would be with
steel wool, sc*th-br*te, brillos, etc.

> C'mon buddy, if you are going to misuse something, pick something like
> toluene or hydrofluoric acid where the user directions are tough.
Why would anyone be daft enough to use either of those in a way not
explicitly stated on the instructions, at least without researching
first? That's just common sense. A scratchy sponge doesn't look like a
can of toluene.

With everything we do we take a calculated risk. Not following the
directions on a can of a toxic substance and winging it=very risky. Not
following the directions of a box of household sponges found in millions
of homes and not known to be dangerous=(should be) much less risky. My
original note was a caution to folks who might follow the same reasoning
I did. Sometimes the item at your fingertips is more dangerous than you
though. Most everybody knows about chlorine and ammonia, etc.

So don't use them dry DAMHIKT (because I already told you).

> Kirk in HMB, Not ducking or running. Knowing I am safe, since Bryan's
> dry sponge won't fly very far.

[To audience] What Kyrk doesn't know is that this Bryan guy (don't know
who he is as my name is Brian) will be taking a roadtrip up highway 1
soon. I wonder how far a frozen wet cleaning sponge flies?

Maybe he can just point me in the direction of a good flea market when I
get up there...

Brian J.M. Rytel brian.rytel@g...

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Kirk Eppler <eppler.kirk@g...> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Brian Rytel <brian.rytel@g...> wrote:
>>
>> I'm referring to the rectangular white pads that look like a
>> sponge, these come under many names. I'm not talking about Sc*tchBr*te-
>> type pads.
>>
>> Firstly, these are abrasive but very mildly so--I'm guessing that's
>> already common knowledge. I believe they have fine Aluminum Oxide
>> (Aluminium Oxide, Jeff) particles but it may be another compound.
>>
>> --IMPORTANT PART-- I was using one of these dry to take the sheen of
>> a finish (nobly restoring a hand saw). After a few minutes I began
>> coughing and I could feel/taste superfine granules in my mouth. I
>> could also feel them stuck(!) to my face, arms, etc. This is much
>> worse than PVC dust because it's almost impossible to see. While I
>> imagined these pads, like all abrasives, would 'shed' I thought they
>> would be heavy pieces and much larger like steel wool or Sc*thBr*te.
>> I had to wash down all my skin and rinse my mouth and throat before
>> resuming work with another abrasive. There's still traces in my mouth
>> and nose. It also littered the work surface (which was white and
>> thusly no contrast)
>>
>
> Bryan
>
> Aren't the directions something simple like
>
> Wet (squeeze out excess water), Erase
>
> With a warning not to use on certain surfaces, or with bleach.
>
> C'mon buddy, if you are going to misuse something, pick something like
> toluene or hydrofluoric acid where the user directions are tough. Or
> if you were in Oklahoma or Iowa where the droughts are raging, might
> cut you some slack. But I am pretty sure Fullerton is doing OK to be
> able to afford a few cups of water
>
> WET ERASE
>
> Kirk in HMB, Not ducking or running. Knowing I am safe, since Bryan's
> dry sponge won't fly very far.
>
> And some facts behind the issues, for anyone who really cares, this
> post does serve some good beside ribbing Bryan.
>
> http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-
> bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id>
> http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/eraser.asp
>
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