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230604 Micah Salb <msalb@l...> Jun-01-2012 RE: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
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230605 Mike Hamilton <mrbuddha@g...> May-31-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
Doc says:
However, another problem for me is that I won't notice that I
have injured myself until after the fact.

After I flattened chisel backs (and then workded the bevels), I
remembered a turners trick for iron stained hands after working wet
wood.
Lemon juice.  Needless to say, I knew immediately where I had cut myself!

While sharpening, I did the kitchen knives as well.  SWMBO got fair
warning this had happened..... and still cut herself.  There was blood
in several places on the counter before she knew to say ouch.
Sharp is like that!.

Regards,
Mike
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230606 Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> May-31-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
My question is, "Do you think I should go to the emergency room?" Like the
time I whacked my thumb with a hatchet trying to split a dollars worth of
screws out of some small bits of wood.

Dumb Phil

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Micah Salb <msalb@l...> wrote:

>  I have calmly gone upstairs and said, "could you maybe give me a hand?"
> while blood is spurting out of my finger with every beat of my heart. . . .
>
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230607 Micah Salb <msalb@l...> Jun-01-2012 RE: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
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230608 John Holladay <docholladay0820@g May-31-2012 RE: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
To that, I do say.  Ouch!
On May 31, 2012 9:31 PM, "Micah Salb" <msalb@l...> wrote:

>  LOL!****
>
> ** **
>
> On the one hand, it might not be a big deal.  On the other hand, the thumb
> is normally attached to the hand. . . . .****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Phil Schempf [mailto:philschempf@g...]
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 10:24 PM
> *To:* Micah Salb
> *Cc:* John Holladay; Don Schwartz; porch
> *Subject:* Re: [OldTools] Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> My question is, "Do you think I should go to the emergency room?" Like the
> time I whacked my thumb with a hatchet trying to split a dollars worth of
> screws out of some small bits of wood.
>
> Dumb Phil****
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Micah Salb <msalb@l...> wrote:*
> ***
>
>  I have calmly gone upstairs and said, "could you maybe give me a hand?"
> while blood is spurting out of my finger with every beat of my heart. . . .
> ****
>
> ** **
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230610 Don Schwartz <dkschwar@t...> May-31-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a

On 5/31/2012 6:51 PM, Micah Salb wrote:
> Seriously.  Is it even remotely newsworthy to draw blood?  I have literally
never worked on a project in which I didn't draw blood at least once, and rarely
just a little bit.  There's something about a very sharp tool that causes a LOT
of blood to flow.  Oh, if I had a dollar for every time I have calmly gone
upstairs and said, "could you maybe give me a hand?" while blood is spurting out
of my finger with every beat of my heart. . . .
>
> Micah
<snick)
Of course not. I've had a couple of those events too, where I needed 
stitches or other professional help. It's not so much I want to hear 
about the blood, I'm more interested to know what caused the accident. 
In this instance:
> Not listening to the little voice ... or maybe plain laziness or cavalier
attitude.
So I thought I could maybe learn something from other Galoots' mistakes, 
but only if they report them. Hence my suggestion for a

... Subject line "Ouch report" to identify reports of
mistakes or accidents such as mine.

<snick>
FWIW
Don
-- 
I have tried too in my time, to be a philosopher; but I don't know how, 
cheerfulness was always breaking in. - Oliver Edwards
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230613 John Holladay <docholladay0820@g May-31-2012 RE: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
Nor did I intend to belittle.  My apologies.  Most of the real bonehead
moments I've had involved something that was plugged in like the time I
watched myself slide the tip of my thumb across a spinning saw blade
mounted in a big steel table.  Then to add to the stupid, I had heard of
using super glue to seal a wound.  Note to all - read up on the correct way
to do this.  The idea is not to just apply the glue to the open wound in
order to try to seal the open wound.  I now this know from experience.
That hurt much worse than the actual wound and it still was hurting hours
afterward.  And I'm not talking about a small dull ache.  I mean, it hurt.

Btw.  The correct way to do this is to hold/squeeze the wound closed, then
apply a sparing amount of the glue at the edges to hold it closed.  I just
poured it on the wound.  It did seal it and it did stop the bleeding, but
d@m... that hurt.

I also was not kidding when I often look down and see myself bleeding, but
have no idea exactly how or when I injured myself.  In one instance, I did
know that I bumped my head on something.  An hour or two later, I went in
the house to see SWMBO looking at me in horror.  My forehead had a
significant amount of dried blood in my hair line and down one side toward
my temple.  I looked quite a sight.

Doc
On May 31, 2012 10:10 PM, "Micah Salb" <msalb@l...> wrote:

> I hear you, Don, and I really didn't mean my email to be belittling or
> anything like that.
>
> Micah
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Schwartz [mailto:dkschwar@t...]
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:10 PM
> To: Micah Salb
> Cc: 'John Holladay'; 'porch'
> Subject: Re: [OldTools] Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
>
>
> On 5/31/2012 6:51 PM, Micah Salb wrote:
> > Seriously.  Is it even remotely newsworthy to draw blood?  I have
> literally never worked on a project in which I didn't draw blood at least
> once, and rarely just a little bit.  There's something about a very sharp
> tool that causes a LOT of blood to flow.  Oh, if I had a dollar for every
> time I have calmly gone upstairs and said, "could you maybe give me a
> hand?" while blood is spurting out of my finger with every beat of my
> heart. . . .
> >
> > Micah
> <snick)
> Of course not. I've had a couple of those events too, where I needed
> stitches or other professional help. It's not so much I want to hear about
> the blood, I'm more interested to know what caused the accident.
> In this instance:
> > Not listening to the little voice ... or maybe plain laziness or
> cavalier attitude.
> So I thought I could maybe learn something from other Galoots' mistakes,
> but only if they report them. Hence my suggestion for a
>
> ... Subject line "Ouch report" to identify reports of mistakes or
> accidents such as mine.
>
>
>
> <snick>
> FWIW
> Don
> --
> I have tried too in my time, to be a philosopher; but I don't know how,
> cheerfulness was always breaking in. - Oliver Edwards
>
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230616 Ed Bell <neanderman@f...> Jun-01-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
On 5/31/2012 11:31 PM, John Holladay wrote:
> I also was not kidding when I often look down and see myself bleeding, but
> have no idea exactly how or when I injured myself.  In one instance, I did
> know that I bumped my head on something.  An hour or two later, I went in
> the house to see SWMBO looking at me in horror.  My forehead had a
> significant amount of dried blood in my hair line and down one side toward
> my temple.  I looked quite a sight.
>
> Doc
>
This happens to me all the time.  No, not blood dripping down the 
forehead, but finding myself bleeding from some cut of unknown origin.  
I think, sometimes, that part of the pain reaction is visual in nature.  
Short way of saying "It didn't hurt until I saw the blood gushing..."

Reminds me of the tale my sister recalled to me of when my dear departed 
pater familias took the end of his thumb off using a tailed devil.  He 
calmly walked upstairs where Melissa noticed the blood.  "What did you 
do?"  "Oh, it's nothing, I just cut myself.  Just need a bandaid"  "Let 
me see it...  Umm, you're going to the hospital for stiches..."

Ed
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230617 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> May-31-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
True story, boys and girls... When I first joined my carving club more than 10
years ago, I had almost no carving experience. I went to learn. Less than a week
later I managed to stab myself in the hand with a gouge. This hurts, and bleeds
a lot. Over the next year I probably cut or stabbed myself one way or another a
dozen times. Then one day it occurred to me that the other members of the club
weren't doing nearly as much bleeding as I was. I talked to one of the old
timers, and he told me I needed to learn to keep my body parts out of the way of
the sharp edges. That seemed simple minded to me at the time, but after some
thought it made sense. I changed the way I held the work, and the way I
approached each cut, always asking myself, "Where is this sharp edge going if it
slips?"

I slowly developed a sense of why I had been stabbing and slicing myself, and I
changed my approach to carving. I rarely ever cut myself now. There definitely
is a learning curve to preventing bloodshed in your shop. It can be done, but
you have to work at it. But if you enjoy bleeding, well... 

Whatever blows your skirt up.

On May 31, 2012, at 8:31 PM, John Holladay wrote

> Nor did I intend to belittle.  My apologies.  Most of the real bonehead
> moments I've had involved something that was plugged in like the time I
> watched myself slide the tip of my thumb across a spinning saw blade
> mounted in a big steel table.  Then to add to the stupid, I had heard of
> using super glue to seal a wound.  Note to all - read up on the correct way
> to do this.  The idea is not to just apply the glue to the open wound in
> order to try to seal the open wound.  I now this know from experience.
> That hurt much worse than the actual wound and it still was hurting hours
> afterward.  And I'm not talking about a small dull ache.  I mean, it hurt.
> 
> Btw.  The correct way to do this is to hold/squeeze the wound closed, then
> apply a sparing amount of the glue at the edges to hold it closed.  I just
> poured it on the wound.  It did seal it and it did stop the bleeding, but
> d@m... that hurt.
> 
> I also was not kidding when I often look down and see myself bleeding, but
> have no idea exactly how or when I injured myself.  In one instance, I did
> know that I bumped my head on something.  An hour or two later, I went in
> the house to see SWMBO looking at me in horror.  My forehead had a
> significant amount of dried blood in my hair line and down one side toward
> my temple.  I looked quite a sight.

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230618 Don Schwartz <dkschwar@t...> May-31-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
On 5/31/2012 9:31 PM, John Holladay wrote:
<snick>

I had heard of using super glue to seal a wound.  Note to all - read up 
on the correct way to do this.  The idea is not to just apply the glue 
to the open wound in order to try to seal the open wound.  I now this 
know from experience.  That hurt much worse than the actual wound and it 
still was hurting hours afterward.  And I'm not talking about a small 
dull ache.  I mean, it hurt.
>
> Btw.  The correct way to do this is to hold/squeeze the wound closed, 
> then apply a sparing amount of the glue at the edges to hold it 
> closed.  I just poured it on the wound.  It did seal it and it did 
> stop the bleeding, but d@m... that hurt.
>
>
<snick>
Good to know. I've wondered about that. I haven't used it on real cuts, 
only on paper cuts where there's no blood, just a flap of skin that will 
eventually cause tearing.
It's also useful to prevent a fingernail from splitting further than it 
already has. And quicker than nail lacquer! Try to avoid getting glue on 
the skin at the leading edge.

Don

-- 
I have tried too in my time, to be a philosopher; but I don't know how, 
cheerfulness was always breaking in. - Oliver Edwards
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230619 Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b. Jun-01-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
On 1/06/12 2:04 PM, "Ed Bell" <neanderman@f...> wrote:

> This happens to me all the time.  No, not blood dripping down the
> forehead, but finding myself bleeding from some cut of unknown origin.
> I think, sometimes, that part of the pain reaction is visual in nature.
> Short way of saying "It didn't hurt until I saw the blood gushing..."

Ed

I know the feeling. I was laying a new floor in the hallway of an old house.
I had taken the skirting boards and architraves off, and would refit them
after the floor is laid.

Nailing the floor down, I was working in front of the doorway to a bedroom.
Next thing I notice is a large, and getting larger patch of blood on the
newly laid pine floor. Like an almost empty can of paint spilt on carpet, a
little blood in the wrong place goes a long way. Blood was running down my
arm from my elbow where I discovered a long and deep clean cut. That's when
it started hurting.

It took quite a while to work out what had cut me. Where I had removed the
architrave from the door jamb, a razor sharp edge of generations of paint
was sticking out off the door jamb by 7 or 8 mm. I'd nudged this with my
elbow. It was such a clean cut, it was painless at the time.

Very hard to remove a blood stain from Pine. Very hard to keep working when
you have a wound that keeps opening up on an elbow.

Mick Dowling
Melbourne
Member, Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia Inc.

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230620 "Maddex, Peter" <peter.maddex@n. Jun-01-2012 RE: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
Hi, Chaps

Always keep the super glue handy, and make sure you can open it
with one hand.

 I smashed my left index finger knuckle while trying to carefully remove
 some bark from a burr, blood over the wood, infection, bruised finger,
 still hurts when I knock it a week later.

Still it's a nice bit of wood http://s86.photobucket.com/albums/k115/ma-
ddpete/Tool%20chest/?action=view&current=DSC_0130.jpg

Pete

Peter Michael Maddex Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know WPS Workplace
Services Nottingham Trent University

-----Original Message----- From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-
bounces@r...us.law.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Don Schwartz Sent: 31 May
2012 22:15 To: scottg@s...
Cc: porch Subject: [OldTools] Ouch Report - first blood draw of the
    summer - a minor hand tool injury

On 5/31/2012 12:06 PM, scott grandstaff wrote:
> <snick>

>  You want to be a little bold, but never so bold you get yourself in
>  trouble. There are times you are wasting your energy walking back for
>  another tool or another safety devise. And there are times you damn
>  well better!

Scott has prompted me to write about a little accident I had yesterday,
when my index finger was unintentionally introduced to my keyhole saw.
There was blood. Nothing too serious, but annoying, and it made me feel
stupid because, basically it happened as I was in a rush to finish
something, didn't trust the little voice that said "This isn't a good
idea" and couldn't be bothered to go to the shop and get the right tool
for the task. Probably we've all done something like this at least once
or twice. I've stopped counting... But as a consequence of yesterday's
incident, I have learned or been reminded

- It's not a good idea to guide a keyhole saw with my free hand when
  starting a cut.
- A keyhole saw is the wrong tool for cutting a straight line anyway.
- The workshop isn't that far from the deck.
- It's pretty uncomfortable playing guitar with a kerf in the fingertip.
- I don't recall when I last had a tetanus shot.

Not listening to the little voice has contributed to various injuries
over the years. I try to remember to pay heed, because I know that
little voice is the voice of my ancestors - who had a pretty fair
understanding of survival, I believe.

Anyway, it would be nice if I didn't have to learn just from my own
mistakes, but could maybe learn from those reported by other Galoots. I
searched the Archives, but was unable to identify a search term
particularly good at identifying reports of hand tool injuries. So I'm
suggesting the Subject line "Ouch report" to identify reports of
mistakes or accidents such as mine. I look forward to reading of others'
mishaps! ;-)

Don
--
I have tried too in my time, to be a philosopher; but I don't know how,
cheerfulness was always breaking in. - Oliver Edwards
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230626 "Maddex, Peter" <peter.maddex@n. Jun-01-2012 RE: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
 Use just normal super glue, it goes off o/k on me, may be with some
 moisture to speed up the setting, I find blood handy and in plentifully
 supply, well up to a point.

Pete

Peter Michael Maddex Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know WPS Workplace
Services Nottingham Trent University

-----Original Message----- From: James Thompson [mailto:oldmillrat@m...]
Sent: 01 June 2012 12:23 To: Maddex, Peter
Cc: 'Don Schwartz'; scottg@s...; porch Subject: Re: [OldTools] Ouch
    Report - first blood draw of the summer - a minor hand tool injury

I am curious to know just how Super Glue, aka CA glue, works to close a
wound. Maybe I am using the wrong variety. When I have tried closing a
wound with CA glue, it took like forever to harden. I had the wound
pinched shut, and if the glue had hardened it would have been fine. But
it is not easy to hold a wound closed for a long time, and they leak,
which definitely defeats bonding. If the glue is thin, it runs and you
glue both hands together. Obviously, I don't know what I am doing.

Are we using a thick, thin, or other type? Is an accelerator needed?
What brand in particular works? When I tried using an accelerator to
speed up the hardening on my skin the reaction was exothermic, and it
burned like hell.

I have looked into buying medical CA glue intended for use on wounds,
but the stuff is incredibly high priced, like $35 for one dose, and you
can't buy just one.

On Jun 1, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Maddex, Peter wrote:

> Hi, Chaps
>
> Always keep the super glue handy, and make sure you can open it with
> one hand.
>
> I smashed my left index finger knuckle while trying to carefully
> remove some bark from a burr, blood over the wood, infection, bruised
> finger, still hurts when I knock it a week later.
>
> Still it's a nice bit of wood http://s86.photobucket.com/albums/k115/-
> maddpete/Tool%20chest/?action=v iew&current=DSC_0130.jpg
>
>
> Pete
>
> Peter Michael Maddex Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know WPS Workplace
> Services Nottingham Trent University
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-
> bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Don Schwartz Sent: 31 May 2012 22:15 To:
> scottg@s...
> Cc: porch Subject: [OldTools] Ouch Report - first blood draw of the
>     summer - a minor hand tool injury
>
> On 5/31/2012 12:06 PM, scott grandstaff wrote:
>> <snick>
>
>> You want to be a little bold, but never so bold you get yourself in
>> trouble. There are times you are wasting your energy walking back for
>> another tool or another safety devise. And there are times you damn
>> well better!
>
> Scott has prompted me to write about a little accident I had
> yesterday, when my index finger was unintentionally introduced to my
> keyhole saw. There was blood. Nothing too serious, but annoying, and
> it made me feel stupid because, basically it happened as I was in a
> rush to finish something, didn't trust the little voice that said
> "This isn't a good idea" and couldn't be bothered to go to the shop
> and get the right tool for the task. Probably we've all done something
> like this at least once or twice. I've stopped counting... But as a
> consequence of yesterday's incident, I have learned or been reminded
>
> - It's not a good idea to guide a keyhole saw with my free hand when
>   starting a cut.
> - A keyhole saw is the wrong tool for cutting a straight line anyway.
> - The workshop isn't that far from the deck.
> - It's pretty uncomfortable playing guitar with a kerf in the
>   fingertip.
> - I don't recall when I last had a tetanus shot.
>
> Not listening to the little voice has contributed to various injuries
> over the years. I try to remember to pay heed, because I know that
> little voice is the voice of my ancestors - who had a pretty fair
> understanding of survival, I believe.
>
> Anyway, it would be nice if I didn't have to learn just from my own
> mistakes, but could maybe learn from those reported by other Galoots.
> I searched the Archives, but was unable to identify a search term
> particularly good at identifying reports of hand tool injuries. So I'm
> suggesting the Subject line "Ouch report" to identify reports of
> mistakes or accidents such as mine. I look forward to reading of
> others' mishaps! ;-)
>
> Don
> --
> I have tried too in my time, to be a philosopher; but I don't know
> how, cheerfulness was always breaking in. - Oliver Edwards
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230628 neanderman@f... Jun-01-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
I've never used CA on a cut, but I have used it, as Don mentions, to prevent
further splitting of nails. It works quite well for that. 

Ed 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Don Schwartz" <dkschwar@t...> 
To: "John Holladay" <docholladay0820@g...> 
Cc: "porch" <OldTools@r...> 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 1:48:57 AM 
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a 

It's also useful to prevent a fingernail from splitting further than it 
already has. And quicker than nail lacquer! Try to avoid getting glue on 
the skin at the leading edge. 

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230632 scott grandstaff <scottg@s...> Jun-01-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
Here is one that is so old now I had to search my own "personal" file, 
because I couldn't remember the title to search the archives with.

  There was a tiny hint in that.
  I keep a "personal" file where I store a copy of things I've said and 
stories I've told and project reports. Mostly hoping I don't repeat 
myself too often.... 8^)

  But this old story shows that getting in a hurry and failing to pay 
strict attention because of it, hardly ever works out the way you wanted.
   So I thought it might be worth repeating, just this once.
    yours Scott

TOUGH DAY

  You know you're having a bad day when you sustain a hand plane injury.

   Stranger than fiction.
So, there I was at the bench. I had a piece of 2X4 between the dogs. I
had out my jack, set pretty aggressive. I was taking down the 2X to
something like 3/4 at one end and the full 1 1/2 at the other. I was
fitting a frame part for a dormer and the old sag of the roof wanted a
tapered piece to bring the window sill up level.
  First, I'd already whacked a good part of the wood off with a 10"
drawknife. Just hogged off a bunch of it. I was just innocently
cleaning up with the jack.
    There was a knot and I slashed right though it. Once, twice and
Yiiiiiiii!
Now this was a new frontier in tearout. The short grain on the
backside of the knot must have exploded on the second stroke, but I
didn't see it.(doh!)  A great big raggedy chunk of wood flew up at the
knot end and still connected at the other. Along came the innocent
jack, my right hand curled around the knob. (remember last week when
we were talking about how brittle douglas fir is?)
   The chunk jumped right over the oncoming plane and caught the
exposed bottom (leading)  side of my little finger. Gouged out a big
piece of meat and shattered. Shreds of jaggery wood caught the top
side of the finger and carried over to the ring finger too peppering
the top side of that. Looked like I'd caught a small hand grenade.
   Blood pouring I grabbed the biggest pieces of wood still impaling me
and jerked them out. (who says shock is not good for anything). Went
for the first aid box and got out a bandage. I'm not much accustomed
to going into "that" box, so by this time I was getting irritated.
Slapped on the bandage. It didn't work. It soaked through instantly
and continued to ooze strongly.
   When I saw this I really started getting pissed. I ignored it.
Stomped over to the bench and finished the piece. Grabbed the sponge I
keep for wiping glue and sopped off the stains on my bench. Happy I
had it sealed with Paddylac along about then. Just left the evidence
on the 2X.   Marched upstairs and fitted that piece.  Predrilled and
set a couple of 20 pennies to secure it. Had to mop stains off the
window frame, but I carefully didn't drip any anyplace else. Just let
it run down my wrist.
    Suddenly, there I was. Upstairs with bloodstains all the way down
to the elbow of my shirt. I looked down at it consciously for the
first time.................
      "MMOOOOOMMMMMMMYYYYY!!!!!"    (Sob sob sob)  " I'm hurt here"  Ow
Ow Ow Ow Owie!
   So, now I'm about to change to the third bandage and wondering how
I'm going to wash my hair for the next few days. Whoda thunk it? A
plane.
  yours, Scott

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230634 Steve Jones <stjones@k...> Jun-01-2012 Re: Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
GGs;

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:58 PM, scott grandstaff <scottg@s...>wrote:

>  I keep a "personal" file where I store a copy of things I've said and
> stories I've told and project reports. Mostly hoping I don't repeat myself
> too often.... 8^)
>

Handy for keeping your stories straight too. :-)

Steve
aKg
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230637 <roygriggs@v...> Jun-01-2012 Re: Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a
Scott,
 It's not unknown to hurt yourself (or a pitbull) with a plane....
 A few weeks ago while shooting a mitered corner on a frame I managed to get the
fatty part just below my thumb in the way and slice a nice little piece off of
it. One thing I did notice...my plane blade dosen't cut as cleanly as my chisels
do! Guess I'll have to work on that huh?

Roy Griggs
roygriggs@v...

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230655 "David Tardiff" <tardiff13@v...> Jun-02-2012 Re: Ouch Report - first blood draw of the summer - a

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Thompson" <oldmillrat@m...>
>I am curious to know just how  Super Glue, aka CA glue, works to close a 
>wound. Maybe I am using the wrong variety. When I have tried closing a 
>wound with CA glue, it took like forever to harden. I had the wound pinched 
>shut, and if the glue had hardened it would have been fine. But it is not 
>easy to hold a wound closed for a long time, and they leak, which 
>definitely defeats bonding. If the glue is thin, it runs and you glue both 
>hands together. Obviously, I don't know what I am doing.
>
> Are we using a thick, thin, or other type? Is an accelerator needed? What 
> brand in particular works? When I tried using an accelerator to speed up 
> the hardening on my skin the reaction was exothermic, and it burned like 
> hell.
>
> I have looked into buying medical CA glue intended for use on wounds, but 
> the stuff is incredibly high priced, like $35 for one dose, and you can't 
> buy just one.
>

A while ago I managed to nearly shear off the side of a finger while 
investigating the bottom of an electric typewriter.  I was assisted by
my son, and while I had said finger inside a cavity in the bottom of the 
machine, he found and moved a lever, which turned out to swing
a sharp-edged metal bit past the hole, working much like a miter trimmer.  A 
flap about 3/4" long, finger wide, and about 1/8" deep was
nearly detached, remaining connected at the finger tip.  I recall mentioning 
that I was injured, held the finger up with pressure, wrapped
in something, and we headed off to the emergency room, me dripping gently 
along the way.  At some point I investigated the injury
and repositioned the flap (by then white) into what looked like the original 
location.

Once in the 'fast track' at the hospital (you have to keep mentioning that 
you're really bleeding to get on that) they uncovered my hand,
washed it with saline, did not lift or reposition the flap, and just 
drizzled a few layers of superglue on.  I of course asked where I could
get such stuff, as it was in a handy dispenser, and they said it had 
antibiotics mixed in, but they would not share....As there was still some
blood oozing, the resulting hard 'shell' was tinted translucent red.  I was 
told to keep it dry and don't pick at it, let it come off naturally.
It eventually did about 2 weeks later, and the injury below had healed 
remarkably well and cleanly, although the 'flap' is now mostly scar tissue 
and insensitive.

I don't recall that they used any sort of accelerant, perhaps the flooding 
with saline first did the trick?  I also don't recall much heat,
but I think they did start by giving me a painkiller shot in the hand 
somewhere, so I may not have felt that. 

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