The bits Garrett Wade sells are for the Yankee-style push drills, with a shank
rather similar to the shank of a Yankee screwdriver:

http://www.garrettwade.com/garrettwade-push-drill/p/69P01.01/

Garrett Wade's bits have the fluted cutting area classic for push drills, and I
have some of these but I also have (courtesy of Kirk Eppler) some with this
shank and a standard twist cutting area.

The bits for Goodell-Pratt and Millers Falls push drills were somewhat
different, with the same fluted cutting area but with a different shape shank,
sort of four flutes I think, where the bit fits into the chuck or collet:

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/push-drill-bits-fluted-millers-falls-goodell-pratt

As far as I know nobody makes these any more, but they can still be found in the
wild. I'll bet I've passed a lot by because I took one glance and assumed that
they were machinists' mills. I just found out the difference between the
different push drill bits this week, so now I have one more thing to keep an eye
out for.

Tom Conroy

Tom Dugan wrote:

For those like me who haven't found the bits they need for $2=2C and
need a whole set=2C Garrett Wade sells a set of 8 for $24.95 that seems
to do the job=2C although I haven't pushed them (ha!) too hard.

http://www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=69P01.01#more

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Thomas,

You are correct.  I never understood why MF made these with a different
chuck, and therefore, bit shank.  There other tools all used the same as
the Stanley/North Bros.  I love my little MF automatic still along with my
many MF tools, but I wish bits were easier to come by.  I have one size
missing from mine, and it must have been very common for it to break.  I've
found and purchased several sets over the years, and every time, the one
that I am missing is the one that I cannot find.

Doc
On May 14, 2012 3:37 AM, "Thomas Conroy" <booktoolcutter@y...> wrote:

> The bits Garrett Wade sells are for the Yankee-style push drills, with a
> shank rather similar to the shank of a Yankee screwdriver:
>
> http://www.garrettwade.com/garrettwade-push-drill/p/69P01.01/
>
> Garrett Wade's bits have the fluted cutting area classic for push drills,
> and I have some of these but I also have (courtesy of Kirk Eppler) some
> with this shank and a standard twist cutting area.
>
> The bits for Goodell-Pratt and Millers Falls push drills were somewhat
> different, with the same fluted cutting area but with a different shape
> shank, sort of four flutes I think, where the bit fits into the chuck or
> collet:
>
>
>
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/push-drill-bits-fluted-millers-falls-goodell-pratt
>
> As far as I know nobody makes these any more, but they can still be found
> in the wild. I'll bet I've passed a lot by because I took one glance and
> assumed that they were machinists' mills. I just found out the difference
> between the different push drill bits this week, so now I have one more
> thing to keep an eye out for.
>
> Tom Conroy
>
>
> Tom Dugan wrote:
>
> For those like me who haven't found the bits they need for $2=2C and
> need a whole set=2C Garrett Wade sells a set of 8 for $24.95 that seems
> to do the job=2C although I haven't pushed them (ha!) too hard.
>
> http://www.garrettwade.com/product.asp?pn=69P01.01#more
>
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tom, let's keep an eye out at alameda. crappy old beat up user-dogmeat
MF/GP eggbeaters used the same bits, and i've found most of mine buying
those and extracting them from the handle.

best, bill felton, ca

On May 14, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Thomas Conroy wrote:

> The bits Garrett Wade sells are for the Yankee-style push drills, with
> a shank rather similar to the shank of a Yankee screwdriver:
>> http://www.garrettwade.com/garrettwade-push-drill/p/69P01.01/ Garrett
>> Wade's bits have the fluted cutting area classic for push drills, and
>> I have some of these but I also have (courtesy of Kirk Eppler) some
>> with this shank and a standard twist cutting area. The bits for Goodell-
>> Pratt and Millers Falls push drills were somewhat different, with the
>> same fluted cutting area but with a different shape shank, sort of
>> four flutes I think, where the bit fits into the chuck or collet:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/push-drill-bits-fluted-
>> millers-falls-goodell-pratt As far as I know nobody makes these any
>> more, but they can still be found in the wild. I'll bet I've passed a
>> lot by because I took one glance and assumed that they were
>> machinists' mills. I just found out the difference between the
>> different push drill bits this week, so now I have one more thing to
>> keep an eye out for.

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This begs me to ask a question.  I have a Millers Falls # 188 Automatic
Push Drill.  This thing is in pristine condition and works great except it
is missing one bit.  I just looked on Randy's site (www.oldtoolheaven.com)
and I see where it should come with 8 fluted shank drill bits.  However, it
does not specify the actual sizes of those 8 drill bits.  Does anyone have
a listing of what actual sizes would have come with this tool?  I'm pretty
sure that the one that I am missing is the 2nd smallest bit, but don't know
what size it is supposed to be.  Still, I would be interested to know what
sizes they are all supposed to be just to compare the others.

Doc

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Bill Kasper <dragonlist@u...>wrote:

> tom, let's keep an eye out at alameda.  crappy old beat up user-dogmeat
> MF/GP eggbeaters used the same bits, and i've found most of mine buying
> those and extracting them from the handle.
>
> best,
> bill
> felton, ca
>
> On May 14, 2012, at 1:37 AM, Thomas Conroy wrote:
>
> > The bits Garrett Wade sells are for the Yankee-style push drills, with a
> shank rather similar to the shank of a Yankee screwdriver:
> >
> > http://www.garrettwade.com/garrettwade-push-drill/p/69P01.01/
> >
> > Garrett Wade's bits have the fluted cutting area classic for push
> drills, and I have some of these but I also have (courtesy of Kirk Eppler)
> some with this shank and a standard twist cutting area.
> >
> > The bits for Goodell-Pratt and Millers Falls push drills were somewhat
> different, with the same fluted cutting area but with a different shape
> shank, sort of four flutes I think, where the bit fits into the chuck or
> collet:
> >
> >
>
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/push-drill-bits-fluted-millers-falls-goodell-pratt
> >
> > As far as I know nobody makes these any more, but they can still be
> found in the wild. I'll bet I've passed a lot by because I took one glance
> and assumed that they were machinists' mills. I just found out the
> difference between the different push drill bits this week, so now I have
> one more thing to keep an eye out for.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage,
> value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of
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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...>wrote:

> This begs me to ask a question.  I have a Millers Falls # 188 Automatic
> Push Drill.  ....., I would be interested to know what sizes they are all
> supposed to be just to compare the others.
>

>From the online catalog at Rose Antique tools., most of the MF sets came
with 1/16" to 11/64" in 1925

1/16, 5/64, 3/32, 7/64, 1/8, 9/64, 5/32, 11/64

Kirk in HMB
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Thank you.  Now to get out the digital caliper and see just exactly what I
have and determine exactly which is missing.

Doc
On May 14, 2012 12:29 PM, "Kirk Eppler" <eppler.kirk@g...> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...>wrote:
>
>> This begs me to ask a question.  I have a Millers Falls # 188 Automatic
>> Push Drill.  ....., I would be interested to know what sizes they are all
>> supposed to be just to compare the others.
>>
>
>
> From the online catalog at Rose Antique tools., most of the MF sets came
> with 1/16" to 11/64" in 1925
>
> 1/16, 5/64, 3/32, 7/64, 1/8, 9/64, 5/32, 11/64
>
> Kirk in HMB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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