Well guys, the genie is out of the lamp!!

  I suppose its no surprise to anyone I have delved into cast pewter 
parts and decoration, done directly in and onto wood as people once did, 
but largely disappeared now.
   But there was one important aspect I hadn't figured out yet.

Pewter bolsters and end caps.

  I was complaining about this one day, when up pops our own Andy Baughn.
    "Hey wait. When I was a kid my dad gave me a book on woodcraft and 
camping that covered that. Let me see if I can find it."
  And find it he did!!
  A few hours later he sent me a page scan of the old book.
  Couple of pictures and a few words threw the light on bright!!

  Today was my first test project.
  I didn't bother to take pictures as I went along. I didn't expect to 
be showing anyone the test subject. And truth to tell, if you had this 
in your hand there are a couple of un-saveable defects. But by and 
large, and for proof of concept, This totally rocks!!

  I took a favorite kitchen knife, one of a pair.  (A weirdo pair 
looking like Donna Reed's 1962 kitchen, nobody would think sexy.)
   Yet they have blades of truly great steel.
   I don't know if this company made great blades all the time or the 
two I got in a box of kitchen junk at a yard sale were lucky specimens. 
But whatever, they are exceptional steel blades to my way of thinking.

  But the wood handles were very plain. Nice enough to grip, but no 
forged bolster or even an end cap at the blade end for sanitary purposes.

  Perfect test specimen!!

  I will do the whole photo tutorial later and hopefully with more 
detailed and decorative accents.
  But for now, its tight and its filling and not that bad for the first 
shot across the bow.

  Cast pewter bolster
 
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/pewterbolster.jpg
-- 
*******************************
    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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On 14-May-12 13:24, scott grandstaff wrote:
>  I was complaining about this one day, when up pops our own Andy Baughn.
>    "Hey wait. When I was a kid my dad gave me a book on woodcraft and 
> camping that covered that. Let me see if I can find it."

Scott, that's lovely, well done.
Now, I do have an issue with all this... photos are all well and good, 
but... what book is it? I must find one....

regards, Peter
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Oh! No! Not another slippery slope?

Sooner or later, on this list, all mysteries will be revealed. Now I have yet
one more really cool thing to learn, and I am afraid that if I stuff any more
facts into my head, it will explode. Yet I have no choice but to learn how to do
this. Miles to go before I sleep.

Bring it on, Scottie! You lead, I'll follow.

 And Andy, please give us the name of the book. 

On May 13, 2012, at 8:24 PM, scott grandstaff wrote:

> Well guys, the genie is out of the lamp!!
> 
> I suppose its no surprise to anyone I have delved into cast pewter parts and
decoration, done directly in and onto wood as people once did, but largely
disappeared now.
>  But there was one important aspect I hadn't figured out yet.
> 
> Pewter bolsters and end caps.
> 
> I was complaining about this one day, when up pops our own Andy Baughn.
>   "Hey wait. When I was a kid my dad gave me a book on woodcraft and camping
that covered that. Let me see if I can find it."
> And find it he did!!
> A few hours later he sent me a page scan of the old book.
> Couple of pictures and a few words threw the light on bright!!
> 
> Today was my first test project.
> I didn't bother to take pictures as I went along. I didn't expect to be
showing anyone the test subject. And truth to tell, if you had this in your hand
there are a couple of un-saveable defects. But by and large, and for proof of
concept, This totally rocks!!
> 
> I took a favorite kitchen knife, one of a pair.  (A weirdo pair looking like
Donna Reed's 1962 kitchen, nobody would think sexy.)
>  Yet they have blades of truly great steel.
>  I don't know if this company made great blades all the time or the two I got
in a box of kitchen junk at a yard sale were lucky specimens. But whatever, they
are exceptional steel blades to my way of thinking.
> 
> But the wood handles were very plain. Nice enough to grip, but no forged
bolster or even an end cap at the blade end for sanitary purposes.
> 
> Perfect test specimen!!
> 
> I will do the whole photo tutorial later and hopefully with more detailed and
decorative accents.
> But for now, its tight and its filling and not that bad for the first shot
across the bow.
> 
> Cast pewter bolster
> http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/pewterbolster.jpg
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Glad to see it worked so well.  I've had that book for most of my life and
read it from time to time thinking someday I will build the wigwam, tipi,
moccasins etc.  Only thing I have done from it is tan a deer hide (worked
great).  Glad to see someone else was able to use it.  One of the worst
things people can do is not share knowledge with others.

Bad Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of scott
grandstaff
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:24 PM
To: porch
Subject: [OldTools] New directions - Thank you Andy!!!

Well guys, the genie is out of the lamp!!

  I suppose its no surprise to anyone I have delved into cast pewter parts
and decoration, done directly in and onto wood as people once did, but
largely disappeared now.
   But there was one important aspect I hadn't figured out yet.

Pewter bolsters and end caps.

  I was complaining about this one day, when up pops our own Andy Baughn.
    "Hey wait. When I was a kid my dad gave me a book on woodcraft and
camping that covered that. Let me see if I can find it."
  And find it he did!!
  A few hours later he sent me a page scan of the old book.
  Couple of pictures and a few words threw the light on bright!!

  Today was my first test project.
  I didn't bother to take pictures as I went along. I didn't expect to be
showing anyone the test subject. And truth to tell, if you had this in your
hand there are a couple of un-saveable defects. But by and large, and for
proof of concept, This totally rocks!!

  I took a favorite kitchen knife, one of a pair.  (A weirdo pair looking
like Donna Reed's 1962 kitchen, nobody would think sexy.)
   Yet they have blades of truly great steel.
   I don't know if this company made great blades all the time or the two I
got in a box of kitchen junk at a yard sale were lucky specimens. 
But whatever, they are exceptional steel blades to my way of thinking.

  But the wood handles were very plain. Nice enough to grip, but no forged
bolster or even an end cap at the blade end for sanitary purposes.

  Perfect test specimen!!

  I will do the whole photo tutorial later and hopefully with more detailed
and decorative accents.
  But for now, its tight and its filling and not that bad for the first shot
across the bow.

  Cast pewter bolster
 
http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/pewterbolster.jpg
--
*******************************
    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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Oh, sorry.  It was The Big Book of Indian Craft by William Ben Hunt.  

When I was a kid Grandpa had a tipi in his back yard.  Me, my brother and my
cousin would camp in it and pretend to be Indians.  He gave me the book for
my 8th birthday I think it was.  Probably read it 500 times by now.

Bad Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of James Thompson
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:51 AM
To: scottg@s...
Cc: porch
Subject: Re: [OldTools] New directions - Thank you Andy!!!

Oh! No! Not another slippery slope?

Sooner or later, on this list, all mysteries will be revealed. Now I have
yet one more really cool thing to learn, and I am afraid that if I stuff any
more facts into my head, it will explode. Yet I have no choice but to learn
how to do this. Miles to go before I sleep.

Bring it on, Scottie! You lead, I'll follow.

 And Andy, please give us the name of the book. 

On May 13, 2012, at 8:24 PM, scott grandstaff wrote:

> Well guys, the genie is out of the lamp!!
> 
> I suppose its no surprise to anyone I have delved into cast pewter parts
and decoration, done directly in and onto wood as people once did, but
largely disappeared now.
>  But there was one important aspect I hadn't figured out yet.
> 
> Pewter bolsters and end caps.
> 
> I was complaining about this one day, when up pops our own Andy Baughn.
>   "Hey wait. When I was a kid my dad gave me a book on woodcraft and
camping that covered that. Let me see if I can find it."
> And find it he did!!
> A few hours later he sent me a page scan of the old book.
> Couple of pictures and a few words threw the light on bright!!
> 
> Today was my first test project.
> I didn't bother to take pictures as I went along. I didn't expect to be
showing anyone the test subject. And truth to tell, if you had this in your
hand there are a couple of un-saveable defects. But by and large, and for
proof of concept, This totally rocks!!
> 
> I took a favorite kitchen knife, one of a pair.  (A weirdo pair 
> looking like Donna Reed's 1962 kitchen, nobody would think sexy.)  Yet
they have blades of truly great steel.
>  I don't know if this company made great blades all the time or the two I
got in a box of kitchen junk at a yard sale were lucky specimens. But
whatever, they are exceptional steel blades to my way of thinking.
> 
> But the wood handles were very plain. Nice enough to grip, but no forged
bolster or even an end cap at the blade end for sanitary purposes.
> 
> Perfect test specimen!!
> 
> I will do the whole photo tutorial later and hopefully with more detailed
and decorative accents.
> But for now, its tight and its filling and not that bad for the first shot
across the bow.
> 
> Cast pewter bolster
> http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/pewterbolste
> r.jpg
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  One of the worst
> things people can do is not share knowledge with others.

Man do you got that right!!
  All of that old "trade secret" crap hindered the advance of mankind 
like nothing else.

  Here is the page. Let me know if this works
  http://users.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/images/house/Babbit.jpg
yours Scott

*******************************
    Scott Grandstaff
    Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
    scottg@s...
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/
    http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/hpages/index.html

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At 02:57 PM 5/14/2012, Andy Baughn wrote:
>Oh, sorry.  It was The Big Book of Indian Craft by William Ben Hunt.
>
>When I was a kid Grandpa had a tipi in his back yard.  Me, my brother and my
>cousin would camp in it and pretend to be Indians.  He gave me the book for
>my 8th birthday I think it was.  Probably read it 500 times by now.

Back when I was a young'un I probably had you beat on the number of 
reads.   That is a great book for all kinds of projects.   Ben Hunt 
used to write articles for Boy's Life, the Boy Scout magazine.  His 
book on wood carving is great also.  I got a replacement copy a few 
years ago just to have one around.

The prices on the new ones are crazy high at least on Amazon but 
there are a bunch of used listings on there

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/002011690X/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

There are also a number on Ebay right now.  Just search for Ben Hunt Indian.

Tony (who had a full outfit and headdress back in the Order Of The 
Arrow days...)

                         Olde River Hard Goods
                     http://www.oldetoolshop.com
                                   TSMusic on Facebook
                http://www.facebook.com/tonyseomusic

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My favorite(s) were the two "Scientific American Boy" by Tony Bond.

On 5/14/12 3:12 PM, "Anthony Seo" <tonyseo@p...> wrote:

> At 02:57 PM 5/14/2012, Andy Baughn wrote:
>> Oh, sorry.  It was The Big Book of Indian Craft by William Ben Hunt.
>> 
>> When I was a kid Grandpa had a tipi in his back yard.  Me, my brother and my
>> cousin would camp in it and pretend to be Indians.  He gave me the book for
>> my 8th birthday I think it was.  Probably read it 500 times by now.
> 
> Back when I was a young'un I probably had you beat on the number of
> reads.   That is a great book for all kinds of projects.   Ben Hunt
> used to write articles for Boy's Life, the Boy Scout magazine.  His
> book on wood carving is great also.  I got a replacement copy a few
> years ago just to have one around.
> 
> The prices on the new ones are crazy high at least on Amazon but
> there are a bunch of used listings on there
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/002011690X/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&cond
> ition=used
> 
> There are also a number on Ebay right now.  Just search for Ben Hunt Indian.
> 
> Tony (who had a full outfit and headdress back in the Order Of The
> Arrow days...)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                          Olde River Hard Goods
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>                 http://www.facebook.com/tonyseomusic
> 
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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Andy Baughn <badandy@c...> wrote:

> Oh, sorry.  It was The Big Book of Indian Craft by William Ben Hunt.
>

And so begins another run on a book.  He apparently goes by W. Ben Hunt on
Abebooks.

Where is that Calvin and Hobbes cartoon again?

Kirk in HMB
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