Wow! 7/16" drive? Really?
  I have never seen this, ever!
   I have a few 5/32 drive tools. Snap-On tried this out for a while and 
it never caught on.
  But 7/16"???

  Me want!!

  I bought a ratchet just yesterday.   1/4" drive
Paid more than I could afford too.   Wanted it bad.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251049587391?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

  The best early mechanics tools are disappearing from the yard sales, 
swap meets and pawn shops......... like anthills in the rain.
  If you ever wanted any, this is last call.

Pretend this is 1974 and woodworking tools.
This is exactly where mechanics tools are at right now.
Some collectors, but not too many.  No national clubs yet. No large 
auction houses.
But its coming fast.

   The tip top stuff is already up there. But there is a little gold to 
be found in the hills yet, too.

  Just in case you didn't know.
  yours Scott

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    scottg@s...
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Check out the Blackhawk 7/16" ratchet on *bay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=-
item20c4cb082a&item=140740593706&nma=true&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&s-
i=uenn3W%252B%252BKV4ubLVOCfFHC6X%252B%252BNI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc-
#ht_500wt_949

Someone wanted that bad.

> never caught on. =A0But 7/16"???
>
> =A0Me want!!
>
> =A0I bought a ratchet just yesterday. =A0 1/4" drive Paid more than I
> could afford too. =A0 Wanted it bad. http://www.ebay.com/itm/25104958-
> 7391?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
>
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Now tell the truth Scott, you really bought it because of that nice little
chef's hat knob for a MF egg-beater drill that came along with it.  You
know you have a drill laying around somewhere that was just driving you
nuts because that knob was missing.  Come on now.  Admit it.

How many of you have a complete set 1/4"-1 1/4" and 8mm-24mm of 1960's era
S-K Wayne combination wrenches?  I do.  They were my Dad's set of wrenches
that he used for too many years to count.  Last week, there was some
discussion about things that remind you of Dad.  Well, when you start
talking about mechanics tools, that does it for me.  My Dad loved tinkering
with cars in any way shape or form.  We spent many an afternoon under the
hood of a hot rod he was building or just keeping my old clunker (teenager
car) running so I could get to and from school.  Thanks Dad

Doc

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:40 PM, scott grandstaff <scottg@s...>wrote:

> Wow! 7/16" drive? Really?
>  I have never seen this, ever!
>  I have a few 5/32 drive tools. Snap-On tried this out for a while and it
> never caught on.
>  But 7/16"???
>
>  Me want!!
>
>  I bought a ratchet just yesterday.   1/4" drive
> Paid more than I could afford too.   Wanted it bad.
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/**251049587391?ssPageName=STRK:**
>
MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.**l2649<http://www.ebay.com/itm/251049587391?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649>
>
>  The best early mechanics tools are disappearing from the yard sales, swap
> meets and pawn shops......... like anthills in the rain.
>  If you ever wanted any, this is last call.
>
> Pretend this is 1974 and woodworking tools.
> This is exactly where mechanics tools are at right now.
> Some collectors, but not too many.  No national clubs yet. No large
> auction houses.
> But its coming fast.
>
>  The tip top stuff is already up there. But there is a little gold to be
> found in the hills yet, too.
>
>  Just in case you didn't know.
>  yours Scott
>
>
> --
> *********************************
>   Scott Grandstaff
>   Box 409 Happy Camp, Ca  96039
>   scottg@s...
>  
http://www.snowcrest.net/**kitty/sgrandstaff/<http://www.snowcrest.net/kitty/sgrandstaff/>
>  
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>
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OK, how many of you have a set of Whitworth wrenches and sockets with 
taps and dies? (left over from my Motorcycle days).

On 5/3/2012 11:41 AM, John Holladay wrote:
> Now tell the truth Scott, you really bought it because of that nice little
> chef's hat knob for a MF egg-beater drill that came along with it.  You
> know you have a drill laying around somewhere that was just driving you
> nuts because that knob was missing.  Come on now.  Admit it.
>
> How many of you have a complete set 1/4"-1 1/4" and 8mm-24mm of 1960's era
> S-K Wayne combination wrenches?  I do.  They were my Dad's set of wrenches
> that he used for too many years to count.  Last week, there was some
> discussion about things that remind you of Dad.  Well, when you start
> talking about mechanics tools, that does it for me.  My Dad loved tinkering
> with cars in any way shape or form.  We spent many an afternoon under the
> hood of a hot rod he was building or just keeping my old clunker (teenager
> car) running so I could get to and from school.  Thanks Dad
>
> Doc
>
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:40 PM, scott grandstaff<scottg@s...>wrote:
>
>> Wow!

-- 

  Richard

Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478

  Take a look at my mess and work.
  http://www.PictureTrail.com/gallery/view?username=thewizz

"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good
with ketchup"

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I still have a very nice set of Whitworth wrenches for working on my '53 
MGTD.  I'm still poking around for a decent set of Whitworth sockets.  
They are quite rare in the wild here.

Tim

Richard wrote:
> OK, how many of you have a set of Whitworth wrenches and sockets with 
> taps and dies? (left over from my Motorcycle days).
>
> On 5/3/2012 11:41 AM, John Holladay wrote:
>> Now tell the truth Scott, you really bought it because of that nice 
>> little
>> chef's hat knob for a MF egg-beater drill that came along with it.  You
>> know you have a drill laying around somewhere that was just driving you
>> nuts because that knob was missing.  Come on now.  Admit it.
>>
>> How many of you have a complete set 1/4"-1 1/4" and 8mm-24mm of 
>> 1960's era
>> S-K Wayne combination wrenches?  I do.  They were my Dad's set of 
>> wrenches
>> that he used for too many years to count.  Last week, there was some
>> discussion about things that remind you of Dad.  Well, when you start
>> talking about mechanics tools, that does it for me.  My Dad loved 
>> tinkering
>> with cars in any way shape or form.  We spent many an afternoon under 
>> the
>> hood of a hot rod he was building or just keeping my old clunker 
>> (teenager
>> car) running so I could get to and from school.  Thanks Dad
>>
>> Doc
>>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:40 PM, scott 
>> grandstaff<scottg@s...>wrote:
>>
>>> Wow!
>
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That one counts as a drive-by gloat in a more literal sense than most.

Tom

Tim Pendleton wrote: "I still have a very nice set of Whitworth wrenches for
working on my '53 MGTD."
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Tim wrote:
>
>I still have a very nice set of Whitworth wrenches for working on my '53 
>MGTD.  I'm still poking around for a decent set of Whitworth sockets.  
>They are quite rare in the wild here.
>
>Tim

I have the opposite problem: a set of Snap-On Whitworth sockets and no
wrenches.  I keep them, thinking that when I retire I will look for an old
British Motorcyle to restore, a late 50's pre-unit construction TR-6 being
high on the list.

The set of sockets I have were acquired used, but I have always been
uncertain whether the set is complete, since some of them say BA, some BS
and others say W.  The set consists of (in order from smallest to largest):
4BA, 3BA, 2BA, 1/8W, 1BA, 3/16W, 1/4W, 3/8BS, 5/16W, 3/8W, 1/2 BS, 9/16 BS

Perhaps someone can explain the 3 different series, and what is missing?

Dave

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If you are willing to pay retail, Whitworth tools are still manufactured
http://www.samstagsales.com/whitworth.htm
On the Flea Bay you can just plug "whitworth tools" in and get  sockets 
galore

  I used to replace all my whitworth fasteners on my Triumph Tiger every 
single chance I got. I had a boxes of detent  helicois in 1/4-20,  
3/8-16,  10-32,   and 5/16-18
My preference was Allen heads.

On 5/4/2012 4:57 PM, David Erickson wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>> I still have a very nice set of Whitworth wrenches for working on my '53
>> MGTD.  I'm still poking around for a decent set of Whitworth sockets.
>> They are quite rare in the wild here.
>>
>> Tim
> I have the opposite problem: a set of Snap-On Whitworth sockets and no
> wrenches.  I keep them, thinking that when I retire I will look for an old
> British Motorcyle to restore, a late 50's pre-unit construction TR-6 being
> high on the list.
>
> The set of sockets I have were acquired used, but I have always been
> uncertain whether the set is complete, since some of them say BA, some BS
> and others say W.  The set consists of (in order from smallest to largest):
> 4BA, 3BA, 2BA, 1/8W, 1BA, 3/16W, 1/4W, 3/8BS, 5/16W, 3/8W, 1/2 BS, 9/16 BS
>
> Perhaps someone can explain the 3 different series, and what is missing?
>
> Dave
>
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I'm still hoping to stumble across a nice set of 'King Dick' sockets in 
the wild.  Besides being good quality, the brand name is a killer.  :)

I almost have SWMBO convinced that a 5 speed trans and  supercharger are 
'must have' upgrades for the TD.  Once she is on board with that, I will 
certainly require the sockets.  Even though the fasteners are funky, you 
have to love the old British machines. You can work on them with hand 
tools, and they really do not leak oil; they are just marking their 
territory.

What year Tiger did you have?  My '72 Daytona is in moth balls now.  
That is a 'unit' machine, so all the fasteners are SAE.

Tim

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq wrote:
> If you are willing to pay retail, Whitworth tools are still manufactured
> http://www.samstagsales.com/whitworth.htm
> On the Flea Bay you can just plug "whitworth tools" in and get  
> sockets galore
>
>  I used to replace all my whitworth fasteners on my Triumph Tiger 
> every single chance I got. I had a boxes of detent  helicois in 
> 1/4-20,  3/8-16,  10-32,   and 5/16-18
> My preference was Allen heads.
>
>
> On 5/4/2012 4:57 PM, David Erickson wrote:
>> Tim wrote:
>>> I still have a very nice set of Whitworth wrenches for working on my 
>>> '53
>>> MGTD.  I'm still poking around for a decent set of Whitworth sockets.
>>> They are quite rare in the wild here.
>>>
>>> Tim
>> I have the opposite problem: a set of Snap-On Whitworth sockets and no
>> wrenches.  I keep them, thinking that when I retire I will look for 
>> an old
>> British Motorcyle to restore, a late 50's pre-unit construction TR-6 
>> being
>> high on the list.
>>
>> The set of sockets I have were acquired used, but I have always been
>> uncertain whether the set is complete, since some of them say BA, 
>> some BS
>> and others say W.  The set consists of (in order from smallest to 
>> largest):
>> 4BA, 3BA, 2BA, 1/8W, 1BA, 3/16W, 1/4W, 3/8BS, 5/16W, 3/8W, 1/2 BS, 
>> 9/16 BS
>>
>> Perhaps someone can explain the 3 different series, and what is missing?
>>
>> Dave
>>
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