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| 229192 | Philip Yarra <philip.yarra@i...> | Apr-22-2012 | Some recent things, and a couple of whatsits |
Evening all, I wanted to share a few recent things I've picked up, and also ask the collective wisdom of the hammer foru... I mean, porch, about a few of them. First up, some Australian-made planes. Turner. Red acetate handles, which you'll either love or hate. This one was from a garage sale 2 weeks ago - the first I've seen in 4 1/2 size: https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579995303807410 https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731580013471630450 As you can see, it needs some cleaning up. I'll get to that eventually. Here it is with a number 4 size that I acquired a little while back: https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731580028084749298 https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731580045198290018 I just can't resist the red acetate: https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731580074323874674 A recent garage sale yielded a small, but pleasing haul: https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579781869677330 A couple of punches, a rat tail file, an Eclipse 77 saw set (now I can set 6 saws at the same time, if I could just grow 4 more arms) some needle nose pliers, an awl-y thing, some side-cutters and a knife-y thing. So the first whatsit is the knife-y thing: When I found it, it was like this: https://plus.google.com/photos/106530426219267526445/albums/5731579758372527169/5731579835292398194?banner=pwa I assumed "Oh, it's a retractable knife, how neat!" but the blade flares out at the end to such a degree that the sharpened part of the blade won't retract into the handle. Theory number 1 sunk! Here it is with the blade pulled out: https://plus.google.com/photos/106530426219267526445/albums/5731579758372527169/5731579804180183986?banner=pwa and here's the stamp on the blade: https://plus.google.com/photos/106530426219267526445/albums/5731579758372527169/5731579847591657170?banner=pwa (Wingfield and Co. Sheffield) - maybe the same Wingfield as this hawksbill knife I own? https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/CFAHaul#5331750585802507250 So... any theories about this knife-y thing? What is it, why is it? It's very particularly made, but for what purpose? Second whatsit: an awl-like object with a triangular point: https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579882848180994 and https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579908863089138 - it might be handmade. Some part of my brain is saying "leatherwork tool" but... any ideas? The shank is so irregular that it might well be a home-made job. But again... for what purpose? It came from a garage sale that was obviously the tail end of what had once been a magnificent shed-universe. I found myself wishing I'd got there earlier, to get all the good tools... then I realised what I really wanted was to have got there when the shed's owner was alive. Going by the home-made tools and the bits that were left, I reckon he would have been a fascinating old bloke. Wish I could have shared a beer with him and asked why he'd converted so many screwdrivers into highly-specialised tools that were almost, but not quite, like awls. His son had a look on his face much like I imagine my own children will wear one day as they clear out my shed... the look that says "I wonder why he kept all these brass taps and 17 worn-out hacksaw blades???" One micro-gloat from that garage sale was these sidecutters: https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579953600888722 https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579971593058882 They didn't look like much, but they cleaned up nicely, and they seem in as-new condition as far as operation goes - no slop, and absolutely no dings or nicks in the edges. I tested them on some heavy-gauge copper wire - a perfect cut, with a firm *snick* - score! From what I can gather from Mr. Google, the PWA stamp reflects that these were manufactured by Crescent under contract for Pratt-Whitney Aircraft, though I can't find what period this contract covered... I guess these might be 1950s vintage or so. Whatever the case, they're rather better than my cheapie side-cutters, so they take pride of place in the shed (though they're not going to replace my 1000V insulated pair that I use at work :-) Cheers from Melbourne, Philip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 229199 | Archie England <christinmedaily@ | Apr-22-2012 | Re: Some recent things, and a couple of whatsits |
Oh yea, that's a gloat! A recent garage sale yielded a small, but pleasing haul: https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579781869677330 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 229217 | Jeff Grothaus <jgrot@s...> | Apr-22-2012 | Re: Some recent things, and a couple of whatsits |
Philip, That "awl-like" object looks like a bird cage awl that was the subject of recent discussion (http://swingleydev.com/archive/get.php?message_id=228700#message). By the way, the pieces you identify as punches look like nail sets. Is this a case of people divided by a common language? Jeff At 4/22/2012 04:49 AM, Philip Yarra wrote: >Evening all, > >I wanted to share a few recent things I've picked up, and also ask the >collective wisdom of the hammer foru... I mean, porch, about a few of them. > >... >Second whatsit: an awl-like object with a triangular point: >https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579882848180994 >and >https://picasaweb.google.com/106530426219267526445/Apr2012#5731579908863089138 >- it might be handmade. Some part of my brain is saying "leatherwork tool" >but... any ideas? The shank is so irregular that it might well be a >home-made job. But again... for what purpose? > >... >Cheers from Melbourne, >Philip. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >OldTools is a mailing list catering to the interests of hand tool >aficionados, both collectors and users, to discuss the history, usage, >value, location, availability, collectibility, and restoration of >traditional handtools, especially woodworking tools. > >To change your subscription options: >http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools > >To read the FAQ: >http://swingleydev.com/archive/faq.html > >OldTools archive: http://swingleydev.com/archive/ > >OldTools@r... >http://ruckus.law.cornell.edu/mailman/listinfo/oldtools ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 229241 | Philip Yarra <philip.yarra@i...> | Apr-23-2012 | Re: Some recent things, and a couple of whatsits |
Hi Jeff, On 23/04/12 02:27, Jeff Grothaus wrote: > > That "awl-like" object looks like a bird cage awl that was the subject > of recent discussion > (http://swingleydev.com/archive/get.php?message_id=228700#message). I did wonder that, but all the pictures of birdcage awls that I have seen show the sharp edges continuing up the shank - not the case here, it's only a short section, with a roundish shank. Also, this is triangular, not square in section... still, I'm open to all ideas, and it certainly seems to behave much like the birdcage awl in the way it severs fibres to start a hole. > > By the way, the pieces you identify as punches look like nail sets. > Is this a case of people divided by a common language? I've heard both terms used interchangeably, I suspect it's a regional thing... wikipedia lists this tool as a nail punch and notes "nail set" as an alternate term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_%28tool%29#Nail_or_pin Cheers, Philip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 229247 | Don Schwartz <dkschwar@t...> | Apr-22-2012 | Re: Some recent things, and a couple of whatsits |
On 4/22/2012 10:01 PM, Philip Yarra wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > On 23/04/12 02:27, Jeff Grothaus wrote: >> >> That "awl-like" object looks like a bird cage awl that was the >> subject of recent discussion >> (http://swingleydev.com/archive/get.php?message_id=228700#message). > > I did wonder that, but all the pictures of birdcage awls that I have > seen show the sharp edges continuing up the shank - not the case here, > it's only a short section, with a roundish shank. Also, this is > triangular, not square in section... still, I'm open to all ideas, and > it certainly seems to behave much like the birdcage awl in the way it > severs fibres to start a hole. > >> >> By the way, the pieces you identify as punches look like nail sets. >> Is this a case of people divided by a common language? > > I've heard both terms used interchangeably, I suspect it's a regional > thing... wikipedia lists this tool as a nail punch and notes "nail > set" as an alternate term: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_%28tool%29#Nail_or_pin > > Cheers, > Philip. > Am I mistaken in thinking a punch is generally flat-tipped, and a nailset tip is concave? Don -- I have tried too in my time, to be a philosopher; but I don't know how, cheerfulness was always breaking in. - Oliver Edwards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
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