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229068 James Thompson <oldmillrat@m...> 2012‑04‑19 Gloats
Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds? Or are we just not finding t
ools to gloat over? I haven't seen any decent gloating here in so long that I ca
n't remember the last one. Are all the tools now collected?

Seems that our posts now refer to tool finds at "ungloatable" prices. I still go
 to estate sales, but rarely find good stuff at good prices.

As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"

James Thompson, the Old Millrat in Riverside CA

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229075 Phil Schempf <philschempf@g...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
Galoots-

Just back from a trip to MN.  I didn't have as much time as I hoped to
search for tools (who does?), but picked up a North Bros. Yankee 131A
screwdriver with 6 bits for a reasonable price and a Millers Falls #7 skew
block plane for free.

Before you tell me I suck let me say the cap clamp screw of the block plane
is sheared off from the spiffy adjustment knob.  Before I get creative,
anybody have a spare in their pocket?  I was also wondering if other planes
use a similar knob that could be adapted to the MF7.  The repair looks like
it will be tricky to get it square and centered so the adjusting knob works
properly.  The screw is sheared right at the knob, looks like an old break.
I'm not sure how well the two pieces mate, if the surfaces would need to be
trued up before they can be satisfactorily joined and whether that joining
should be done with hard solder, brazing or welding.  The adjustment knob
looks to be plated and a lot of heat is unlikely to do that much good.  All
said, that is probably short of a true gloat.

I'll be going back to MN this summer and there should be more relatives
around so perhaps I can parse out Ma's to do list and have more luck
haunting the antiques shops.

Phil

> On Apr 19, 2012 11:14 AM, "James Thompson"  wrote:
> >
> >> Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds? Or are we just not
> >> finding tools to gloat over? I haven't seen any decent gloating here in
> so
> >> long that I can't remember the last one. Are all the tools now
> collected?
>
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229073 Bill Kasper <dragonlist@u...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
michael, share the end result of that one day's run...that candle
holder is sweet!

and you found a swage! nicely mounted, too.

bill felton, ca

On Apr 19, 2012, at 10:19 AM, nicknaylo@a... wrote:

> OK, I*ll toss in my most recent. Its smithing stuff so it doesn*t
> really fit into the neat-old-tool-at-gloatable-price but I*m really
> happy with the usefulness and what I paid.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../6993083773/in/photostream
>> A smith I know from the local association was moving her (yes,her)
>> shop and was culling what didn*t need to be moved. 7 scrolling jigs
>> (held in vise while hot steel is bent around for matching parts),
>> pair of tongs and a user made swage block/bolster that is just about
>> perfect for my little smithy. Here it is mounted on my old anvil
>> stand (I KNEW I*d find another use for that) http://www.flickr.com/p-
>> hotos/10735775@N.../6844844900/in/photostream/ I*d been looking for a
>> swage and despairing the shipping costs even if I could find one for
>> cheap. the pair of Andrew Jackson's in my wallet was all it took, and
>> she tossed in a mostly full bag of coal too. Michael S-still
>> frightening the neighbors
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229069 John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
I haven't had much time to even search for tool deals/gloats lately.  I am
planning to go to one of my favorite fleas this Saturday.  I can dare to
dream that there might be a good find to be had.

Doc
On Apr 19, 2012 11:14 AM, "James Thompson"  wrote:

> Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds? Or are we just not
> finding tools to gloat over? I haven't seen any decent gloating here in so
> long that I can't remember the last one. Are all the tools now collected?
>
> Seems that our posts now refer to tool finds at "ungloatable" prices. I
> still go to estate sales, but rarely find good stuff at good prices.
>
> As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"
>
>
> James Thompson, the Old Millrat in Riverside CA
>
>
>
>
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229080 Jim Crammond <jicaarr@y...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
Galoots,

I guess I'm in the same situation as others, I haven't been getting out as much 
as I used to and haven't found anything really gloatable, although Zach did sell
 me a 10" Richardson backsaw that will clean up nicely for $10.

I did find something last week that is off charter that was really gloatable at 
a Toledo Public School surplus equipment auction (let's say that it's a 90, star
ts with P and rhymes with automatic and the price was so good that I bought 4).

Jim Crammond in Monroe Mi.

I'm in the same situation as John. Haven't had much time to hunt for
gloatable tools. I did buy some beautiful tools at the MWTCA meet in
Chesaning last weekend, but they weren't really "gloatable", although
I guess a ivory and silver rule for $100 is pretty good.
--
Zachary Dillinger
The Eaton County Joinery
www.theeatoncountyjoinery.com
517-231-3374
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229070 Zachary Dillinger <zacharydillinger@g...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
I'm in the same situation as John. Haven't had much time to hunt for
gloatable tools. I did buy some beautiful tools at the MWTCA meet in
Chesaning last weekend, but they weren't really "gloatable", although I
guess a ivory and silver rule for $100 is pretty good.
--
Zachary Dillinger The Eaton County Joinery www.theeatoncountyjoinery.com
517-231-3374

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:22 PM, John Holladay
 wrote:
> I haven't had much time to even search for tool deals/gloats lately.
> =A0I am planning to go to one of my favorite fleas this Saturday. =A0I
> can dare to dream that there might be a good find to be had.
>
> Doc On Apr 19, 2012 11:14 AM, "James Thompson"
>  wrote:
>
>> Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds? Or are we just
>> not finding tools to gloat over? I haven't seen any decent gloating
>> here in so long that I can't remember the last one. Are all the tools
>> now collected?
>>
>> Seems that our posts now refer to tool finds at "ungloatable" prices.
>> I still go to estate sales, but rarely find good stuff at good
>> prices.
>>
>> As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"
>>
>>
>> James Thompson, the Old Millrat in Riverside CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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229071 Ed Bell <neanderman@f...> 2012‑04‑19 RE: Gloats
Like others have expressed, I haven't had the time, of late, to do much 
hunting beyond making sure I have some things that might work for 
Galootaclaus.

I did, however, find a pretty nice Craftsman crosscut saw a few months 
back that I intended to, um, gloat a little about. But then time got 
away from me and the moment kind of passed.

Ed

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:14 PM, James Thompson wrote:

> Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds?
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229077 Robert Hutchins <rhhutchins@h...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
On 4/19/2012 11:14 AM, James Thompson wrote:
> As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really overat last  *for good*?"
>
>
Sorry, Jim, but I'm a big fan of the Hag's.

-- 
Bob Hutchins
Temple, TX, USA

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229072 nicknaylo@a... 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
OK, I*ll toss in my most recent. Its smithing stuff so it doesn*treally
fit into the neat-old-tool-at-gloatable-price but I*m reallyhappy with
the usefulness and what I paid.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../6993083773/in/photostream

A smith I know from the local association was moving her (yes,her)
shopand was culling what didn*t need to be moved. 7 scrolling jigs (held
invise while hot steel is bent around for matching parts), pair of
tongsand a user made swage block/bolster that is just about perfect for
mylittle smithy. Here it is mounted on my old anvil stand (I KNEW
I*dfind another use for that)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../6844844900/in/photostream/

I*d been looking for a swage and despairing the shipping costs even ifI
could find one for cheap.

the pair of Andrew Jackson's in my wallet was all it took, and shetossed
in a mostly full bag of coal too.

Michael S-still frightening the neighbors

-----Original Message----- From: James Thompson  To:
oldtools List  Sent: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 9:14 am Subject:
[OldTools] Gloats

Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds? Or are we just
notfinding tools to gloat over? I haven't seen any decent gloating here
in so longthat I can't remember the last one. Are all the tools now
collected?

Seems that our posts now refer to tool finds at "ungloatable" prices.
Istill go to estate sales, but rarely find good stuff at good prices.

As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"

James Thompson, the Old Millrat in Riverside CA

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229078 Bill Ghio <bghio@m...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
On Apr 19, 2012, at 12:14 PM, James Thompson wrote:

> > Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds? Or are we just not findi
ng tools to gloat over? I haven't seen any decent gloating here in so long that 
I can't remember the last one. Are all the tools now collected?
> 
> > Seems that our posts now refer to tool finds at "ungloatable" prices. I stil
l go to estate sales, but rarely find good stuff at good prices.
> 
> As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"

Does does wood count? 15/4 Hard Maple @ $1.61/BF... or 8/4 Tiger Maple @ $2.80/B
F? Ditto for the Curly Cherry. And then he threw in for free the Mahogany turnin
g stock I needed for a small "honey do" project. I'll post a more complete pictu
re -- with pictures -- in the next few days but right now I have an hour free an
d am heading for the shop.

Bill
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229079 nicknaylo@a... 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
 right now I have an hour free and am heading for the shop.

Bill

Happy, happy words! Nice gloat on the wood

Michael S

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229086 Charlie Driggs <cdinde@v...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
Jim asked earlier today ... Have we just stopped with gloating over tool
finds? Or are we just not finding tools to gloat over? I haven't seen
any decent gloating here in so long that I can't remember the last one.
Are all the tools now collected?

Seems that our posts now refer to tool finds at "ungloatable" prices. I
still go to estate sales, but rarely find good stuff at good prices.

Jim and I occasionally exchange emails and we've touched on this topic
several times. For me, I just don't get to the storied "Field of Dreams"
much anymore, maybe in part because it had become a dry hole for me for
a couple of years, and in part because the day job had become a black
hole for my waking hours until recently. There also seems to be
noticeably fewer yard or garage (boot, Jeff) sales these days with
anything other than used baby clothes, baby furniture, frayed extension
cords and ugly lamps on offer. But the biggest problem I have is a
distinct lack of places left to store or stash tools in my shop, so many
of my purchases tend to be small in size recently. I have a whole
'nother room in the basement equal to the size of my official shop that
is largely unavailable. It is occupied by a few machines my shop can't
handle, a stash of mostly donor saws, a stash of now well acclimated
mahogany and poplar boards for furniture projects in waiting, and a
large assortment, or more appropriately described as a pile, of ex-
college items from my kids that need sorting to be pitched or given
away. That sorting will have to happen soon if I am to be acquiring any
more of the items I have a hope of finding. But Jim and I have both
noticed that it is harder to find good tools, especially at bargain
prices. My suspicion is that most of what we all used to gloat about is
now posted for all to see on *b*y, where it is misidentified, called
'rare' and priced accordingly until some sucker springs for it, all too
often only to find that the other side not shown in the pictures is
heavily rust encrusted or cracked. I miss the pickin's of twenty years
ago, and we already knew at that time that we had missed many of the
really spectacular gloats. Even Pat Leach seems to be getting a large
portion of his tool inventory from England these days, so that ought to
be an indication that barn collections for a pittance and shuttered
hardware stores are getting harder and harder to find.

Charlie Driggs--------------------------------------------------------------
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229089 "Andrew B." <andrew.bouland@g...> 2012‑04‑19 RE: Gloats
>>> Jim itches for a good tale of gold in the wild<<<

I've actually had some good finds over the last year or so but overall
I guess I've never been much of one to "gloat" as it were.

That said, I've got a favorite fishing hole that I get to a few times
a year but it's pretty well a holding tank for bottom feeders.  If
you've ever seen an old episode of Sanford and Son, then this guy's
place is in the alley out back.  He runs a junk business out of an old
gas station and seems to get most of his stuff from auctions that
appear be the last stop for the remains from house cleanouts.  If
stuff doesn't sell at this guy's shop then it's off to the dumpster or
to the scrapyard.  Usually a trip there will get me a beer flat of
screwdrivers and maybe a chisel or two at best yet when I get a chance
I'll go pay him a visit in hopes of something special.  He gets lots
saws and braces but as mentioned, this is bottom feeder territory.  In
the 10 years or so that I've been visiting this guy, I've never seen a
backsaw that was older than 1980's vintage (think something that Great
Neck would look down on) and even then, usually rusty and munged up.
This past fall I found two old Disston's - one was a 1 son, the other
a double eagle.  Handles are pretty rough on both and spines and
blades are a bit pitted but those were firsts for me on both counts.
Prices were probably about a buck each.

One of the worst days of the summer last year I went there early in
the morning before the owner showed up.  He told me the penalty for
trespassing was a very large ice cold drink...  I laughed and asked
what he liked.  I didn't find much that morning but took him a quart
of gatorade that afternoon and spotted an older stanley miterbox that
I'd missed earlier.  He was pleased to see that I'd made good on my
fine and I think I could have named my price on the box but if I
recall, we both came up with something we could live with.  I was just
there recently but he doesn't really get much new in over the winter
and seemed like the new stock for spring hadn't started coming in.

In all the years of going there I've rarely found a plane - a handful
of lever caps (one from an old Siegley #8) but never much of anything
that wasn't junk or broken.  Not sure if I've got competition or if
they just get picked out at the auctions he's getting his stuff from.

Cheers,
Andrew
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229088 John Ruth <johnrruth@h...> 2012‑04‑19 RE: Gloats
Roy piqued my curiousity when he wrote:
> Well=2C I got me a "better" pencil sharpener last weekend for $2=2C
> and a #3 and #6 for $3 each=2C...uh well they were wooden drivers=2C
> (just the heads for the persimmon)...

OK=2C Roy=2C just exactly what can a Galoot make out of the tiny amount
of Persimmon wood in an old driver?


There's not much more than a sliver available unless you can incorporate
the curves of the original surface......


The only thing I can think of would be new scales for a "perfect handle"
style screwdriver or a knife. (Oh=2C yeah=2C I sure do remember the
masterpiece PH screwdriver somebody posted a couple of years back. )
Maybe a pen-turning blank.

Now=2C watch=2C the Porch will come up with 50 uses for this odd shaped
donor wood.


John Ruth
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229090 <roygriggs@v...> 2012‑04‑19 RE: Gloats
John,
 You guessed correctly, I bought them for Perfect Handle scales....I've never ha
d any persimmon and they were so cheap I thought I'd try. Haven't figured out ye
t how to best "harvest" them...8^)

Roy Griggs
roygriggs@v...

---- John Ruth  wrote: 
> 
> Roy piqued my curiousity when he wrote:
>  
> > > Well, I got me a "better" pencil sharpener last weekend for $2, and a #3 a
nd #6 for $3 each,...uh well they were wooden drivers, (just the heads for the p
ersimmon)...
> 
> 
> > OK, Roy, just exactly what can a Galoot make out of the tiny amount of Persi
mmon wood in an old driver?
> 
>  
> 
> > There's not much more than a sliver available unless you can incorporate the
 curves of the original surface......
> 
>  
> 
> > The only thing I can think of would be new scales for a "perfect handle" sty
le screwdriver or a knife. (Oh, yeah, I sure do remember the masterpiece PH scre
wdriver somebody posted a couple of years back. )  Maybe a pen-turning blank.  
> 
>  
> 
> > Now, watch, the Porch will come up with 50 uses for this odd shaped donor wo
od.
> 
>  
> 
> John Ruth
>  		 	   		  

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229092 John Holladay <docholladay0820@g...> 2012‑04‑19 RE: Gloats
I've often wondered about working with persimmon wood.  I've repaired and
refinished many persimmon golf clubs.  I know the wood to be quite hard.
I've never actually seen any lumber available.  Considering its use in golf
clubs, it must be very though.  It is also a very attractive wood in my
opinion.

Doc
On Apr 19, 2012 6:30 PM,  wrote:

> John,
>  You guessed correctly, I bought them for Perfect Handle scales....I've
> never had any persimmon and they were so cheap I thought I'd try. Haven't
> figured out yet how to best "harvest" them...8^)
>
> Roy Griggs
> roygriggs@v...
>
> ---- John Ruth  wrote:
> >
> > Roy piqued my curiousity when he wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I got me a "better" pencil sharpener last weekend for $2, and a
> #3 and #6 for $3 each,...uh well they were wooden drivers, (just the heads
> for the persimmon)...
> >
> >
> > OK, Roy, just exactly what can a Galoot make out of the tiny amount of
> Persimmon wood in an old driver?
> >
> >
> >
> > There's not much more than a sliver available unless you can incorporate
> the curves of the original surface......
> >
> >
> >
> > The only thing I can think of would be new scales for a "perfect handle"
> style screwdriver or a knife. (Oh, yeah, I sure do remember the masterpiece
> PH screwdriver somebody posted a couple of years back. )  Maybe a
> pen-turning blank.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now, watch, the Porch will come up with 50 uses for this odd shaped
> donor wood.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Ruth
> >
>
> --
>
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229094 <roygriggs@v...> 2012‑04‑19 RE: Gloats
John,
 After I bought the club heads, I stopped by the booth of the tool dealer who is
 going to get me into the tool sale early on Sat. He asked me what I had, so I t
old him and he said "You want some persimmon, I'l bring you some."  He haunts th
e local "green" dump for carving woods, so there is no telling what he has. We h
ave a "green" dump where trees, shrubs, etc. can be dumped free; they turn it in
to mulch and then give it away free and also use it in the city parks etc.  Any 
pieces of trees to large to chip they leave for people to take for splitting int
o firewood or any other purpose. 
 Anyway I just waiting to get some persimmon from him. Then I'll see what else h
e has, I'd also like some Apricot, or Apple, or.....

Roy Griggs
roygriggs@v... 
---- John Holladay  wrote: 
> I've often wondered about working with persimmon wood.  I've repaired and
> refinished many persimmon golf clubs.  I know the wood to be quite hard.
> I've never actually seen any lumber available.  Considering its use in golf
> clubs, it must be very though.  It is also a very attractive wood in my
> opinion.
> 
> Doc
> On Apr 19, 2012 6:30 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > John,
> >  You guessed correctly, I bought them for Perfect Handle scales....I've
> > never had any persimmon and they were so cheap I thought I'd try. Haven't
> > figured out yet how to best "harvest" them...8^)
> >
> > Roy Griggs
> > roygriggs@v...
> >
> > ---- John Ruth  wrote:
> > >
> > > Roy piqued my curiousity when he wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, I got me a "better" pencil sharpener last weekend for $2, and a
> > #3 and #6 for $3 each,...uh well they were wooden drivers, (just the heads
> > for the persimmon)...
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, Roy, just exactly what can a Galoot make out of the tiny amount of
> > Persimmon wood in an old driver?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There's not much more than a sliver available unless you can incorporate
> > the curves of the original surface......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The only thing I can think of would be new scales for a "perfect handle"
> > style screwdriver or a knife. (Oh, yeah, I sure do remember the masterpiece
> > PH screwdriver somebody posted a couple of years back. )  Maybe a
> > pen-turning blank.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now, watch, the Porch will come up with 50 uses for this odd shaped
> > donor wood.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Ruth

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229097 Mike Hamilton <mrbuddha@g...> 2012‑04‑19 RE: Gloats
oops forgot the subject.....

Roy tells us tales of persimmon and tree dumps....

Persimmon is indeed hard.
Tree dumps (and tree surgeons) are a turner's best friend.
'Round here, I have yet to find a piece of persimmon firewood that
didn't have lots prettly large galleries from some kind of large
caliber bug (always packed full of frass).

Regards,
Mike
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229098 nicknaylo@a... 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
Here you go,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../6948932652/in/photostream/

used the swage to form the candle socket, should have used someslightly
thinner metal, both base and socket from the same stock, with just
cutoff box nails formed into rivets for thesocket and handle. Recently
made curved end chisel and center punch wasall that was needed for the
decorative edge

Scroll was fun to make, both ends on the same jig, with a *snub
penny*treatment on the end.

Michael S

michael, share the end result of that one day's run...that
candleholder is sweet!

and you found a swage! nicely mounted, too.

bill felton, ca

On Apr 19, 2012, at 10:19 AM, nicknaylo@a... wrote:

> OK, I*ll toss in my most recent. Its smithing stuff so it
> doesn*treally fit
into the neat-old-tool-at-gloatable-price but I*m really happy with the
usefulness and what I paid.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../6993083773/in/photostream
>
> A smith I know from the local association was moving her
> (yes,her)shop and
was culling what didn*t need to be moved. 7 scrolling jigs (held invise
while hot steel is bent around for matching parts), pair of tongs and a
usermade swage block/bolster that is just about perfect for my little
smithy. Here it is mounted on my old anvil stand (I KNEW I*d find
another use for that)
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../6844844900/in/photostream/
>
> I*d been looking for a swage and despairing the shipping costs
> evenif I could
find one for cheap.
>
> the pair of Andrew Jackson's in my wallet was all it took, and
> shetossed in a
mostly full bag of coal too.
>
> Michael S-still frightening the neighbors

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229102 Bill Taggart <w.taggart@v...> 2012‑04‑19 Re: Gloats
My only gloats of late are way off-topic. I really haven't engaged in 
"the chase" in earnest at all for quite a long time now. I was heavily 
into my acquisition phase of Galoothood back in the 1990s. But now I'm 
in the "do I really *need* this thing?" phase. So unless it's something 
really unusual or at some insanely ridiculous, way-too-good-to-pass-up 
price, I'm not really buying anything anymore.

Plus I recall a while back (probably a bunch of years now, although it 
doesn't feel like it was more than a couple), there was a bit of a 
kerfuffle over the "gloating." I don't recall who, and even if I did, I 
wouldn't name names, but someone took some sort of offense to the 
gloating and then there was a whole discussion about the ethics, 
morality and seemliness of gloating. There might even have been a touch 
of navel-gazing; I don't fully recall. But after that affair, I decided 
to kind of back off the heavily over gloat, if I did get one.

The most recent really gloatable event I had was when my buddy Michael 
and I bought the truckload of blacksmithing tools from an estate - that 
was back in January 2010. We ended up keeping a few choice things for 
ourselves and selling off the rest at a nice little profit. I still have 
the anvil, a killer Buffalo forge, a mess of tongs, swages, hammers, 
various handled tools, and probably a half-ton of steel stock 
(literally) along with various and sundry other tools that came out of 
the same garage. Unfortunately, pretty much all of Michael's stuff got 
stolen, along with a lot of his other tools and stuff (long story).

- Bill Taggart
- Owner/Operator, Junk King of Central Virginia

On 4/19/2012 2:22 PM, Bill Ghio wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2012, at 12:14 PM, James Thompson wrote:
>
>> >> Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds? Or are we just not fin
ding tools to gloat over? I haven't seen any decent gloating here in so long tha
t I can't remember the last one. Are all the tools now collected?
>>
>> >> Seems that our posts now refer to tool finds at "ungloatable" prices. I st
ill go to estate sales, but rarely find good stuff at good prices.
>>
>> As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"
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229103 Bill Taggart <w.taggart@v...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
Actually, my more recent gloats have been discovering things in my shop 
I didn't know I had and had no memory of where I got them. Just the 
other day, I uncovered, under the geological strata that had accumulated 
on the side bench I rarely use, a couple planes. Huh! Who knew I had 
those? I sure didn't. Where the heck did they come from?

- Bill T.

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229117 Bill Kasper <dragonlist@u...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
thaaat's it. nice stuff, michael.

bill felton, ca

On Apr 19, 2012, at 6:50 PM, nicknaylo@a... wrote:

> Here you go,
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10735775@N.../6948932652/in/photostream/
>> used the swage to form the candle socket, should have used some
>> slightly thinner metal, both base and socket from
> the same stock, with just cutoff box nails formed into rivets for the
> socket and handle. Recently made curved end chisel and center punch
> was all that was needed for the decorative edge
>> Scroll was fun to make, both ends on the same jig, with a *snub
>> penny* treatment on the end. Michael S michael, share the end result
>> of that one day's run...that candle holder is
> sweet!
>> and you found a swage! nicely mounted, too. bill
> felton, ca
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229108 Zachary Dillinger <zacharydillinger@g...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
I know the feeling! My wife and I are putting our house up on the
market, so that we can move back to the country and purchase this
beautiful 1910 farmhouse her father currently owns. In the process of
moving my shop (a total nightmare, by the way), I've discovered
planes, chisels and saws I completely forget that I owned.  Once I see
'em, I remember buying 'em, but I wouldn't have remembered I have them
if you had asked.  A troubling situation, as its taking me several
times longer to pack up than it should.

And don't even ask about moving my lumber pile. I've had nightmares
about that...
--
Zachary Dillinger
The Eaton County Joinery
www.theeatoncountyjoinery.com
517-231-3374

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Bill Taggart  wrote:
> Actually, my more recent gloats have been discovering things in my shop I
> didn't know I had and had no memory of where I got them. Just the other day,
> I uncovered, under the geological strata that had accumulated on the side
> bench I rarely use, a couple planes. Huh! Who knew I had those? I sure
> didn't. Where the heck did they come from?
>
> - Bill T.
>
>
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229109 Bill Taggart <w.taggart@v...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
On 4/20/2012 8:09 AM, Zachary Dillinger wrote:
> And don't even ask about moving my lumber pile. I've had nightmares
> about that...

I've moved my lumber pile twice now. It was larger the second time than 
the first, and now it's much larger than it was the second time.

My accumulation of tools and - much more significantly, machinery 
(including some very large, very heavy assemblages of cast arn) also has 
greatly increased in magnitude.

When we moved from NJ to VA (almost 10 years ago!), I fit every tool, 
machine, workbench, and piece of lumber I owned in a rented U-Haul 
18-foot box truck (which I beat worse than a rented mule). If I were to 
do it today, it easily would require an 18-wheeler. And come to think of 
it, I'm not sure it would all even fit in just one...

And I'm a rank amateur when it comes to accumulating tools and 
machinery. I'm not even remotely approaching true tool and machinery 
hoarder status, based on some guys I've seen.

- Bill T.

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229114 Steve Reynolds <s.e.reynolds@v...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
On 04/19/12, Charlie Driggs wrote:

 For me, I just don't get to the storied "Field of Dreams" much anymore,
 maybe in part because it had become a dry hole for me for a couple of
 years, and in part because the day job had become a black hole for my
 waking hours until recently. [snip]
_____________________________________________________________________

Yep, dry hole. Frickin dry, Dry, DDDRRRRRYYYYY hole. Ain?t no field of
dreams anymore. Dr. D8 and I have not found anything worth gloating
about in years. I haven?t seen Todd there in over a year, sothat is some
indicator of the dryness of the hole. To my mind, good old tools have
migrated toonline sales. You can compare it to thedearth of tools being
sold here on the Porch since the rise of venues to sellthem online.


                I haveone recent gloat, though. The good Dr.and I were
                at a bike swap. It was mostlywhole bikes being swapped,
                but some people had tables with odds and ends. I was
                busy wasting time looking at some dreckwhen I noticed
                Tom looking intently at a table full of good
                components. The little bastuhd was fingering the
                treasurewithout so much as nod of the head to get my
                attention. I hustled over to mine some treasure. Now
                I?m busy looking through bike componentsfor a while
                before I notice he was under the table going through
                some oldtools. Not old bike tools, oldwoodworking
                tools. He stands up holdingthe stock of a wooden block
                plane, turns it around some while considering it,and
                tosses it back into the tote under the table. I wander
                over, pick it up and notice that itis a nice ECE
                blockplane that is missing the blade and levercap. A
                little more inspection revels it cannot bethe same No.
                649 model that I scored last fall because it has a
                wooden palmrest where the No. 649 has that elegant
                adjusting knob that doubles as the palmrest. Being a
                diligent oldtooler, (ascontrasted to a bike crazed one-
                time oldtooler) I know that it is likely thatthe blade
                and a wedge are somewhere in the tote or on the
                vendor?s table. I start digging in the tote. A wedge is
                uncovered about mid-level, and ablade at the bottom. A
                Bell System 2101brace is keeping the blade company.
                Ihold them all up and ask for a price, and happily pay
                the $6 he asks. It is while this transaction is taking
                placethat the bike maniac notices and utters the first
                expletive filled imprecationabout my bastuhdisim. Ah,
                what sweetmusic to my ears. I was to hear thisjoyous
                music a number of times that day, and reminded of it
                numerous times inthe following week. Nothing like
                takingtools out from under the nose of your buddy.


                Someonline searching leads me to think this blockplane
                is a No. 249P. It looks like ECEmmerich no longer
                producethis model. I?d appreciate anyinformation anyone
                has on this model.

Regards, Steve

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229119 Zachary Dillinger <zacharydillinger@g...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
I just got a new gloat... my copy of the 2nd edition of The Tool Chest
of Benjamin Seaton arrived today! For free, thanks to my membership in
TATHS. Definitely gloatable in my book (pun intended).

Zach
--
Zachary Dillinger
The Eaton County Joinery
www.theeatoncountyjoinery.com
517-231-3374
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229138 "Frank Sronce" <dilloworks@s...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
Zach,

In my case, I have had to re-define the word "gloatable".  The only 
thing I have found of interest in the last month or two was little 
plastic pouch holding three different sizes of screw drivers for use in 
a brace - each marked Stanley HandyMan.  That's a pretty nasty comedown 
from the old days of things like my $10.00 Stanley Bed Rock No. 3.

Frank Sronce (Fort Worth Armadillo Works)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Dillinger" 
To: "John Holladay" 
Cc: "oldtools List" 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Gloats

I'm in the same situation as John. Haven't had much time to hunt for
gloatable tools. I did buy some beautiful tools at the MWTCA meet in
Chesaning last weekend, but they weren't really "gloatable", although
I guess a ivory and silver rule for $100 is pretty good.
--
Zachary Dillinger
The Eaton County Joinery 

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229147 "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> 2012‑04‑20 RE: Gloats
Speaking of tin snips, does anyone have suggestions for tightening up old
snips that are tool loose in the jaws?

J

Joseph Sullivan

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Darrell &
Kathy
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:44 PM
To: James Thompson
Cc: oldtools List
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Gloats

On 4/19/2012 12:14 PM, James Thompson wrote:

>  Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds?

OK Jim, here's a small gloat:

I was riding my bicycle to the commuter train station last Friday when I
spotted a tool lying on the road.  I pulled over, waited for the traffic to
clear and picked up a pair of tin snips.

http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/IMG-20120415-00
052.jpg

Free tools.  I love free tools.  Even if it is my 6th pair of tin snips.

>  As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"

Not for me.  When I can buy unopened boxes of screws at garage sales for 25
cents a box I feel like the Good Times are right now.
But that was last week's gloat ;^)

--
Darrell LaRue
Oakville ON
Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User

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229151 "Joseph Sullivan" <joe@j...> 2012‑04‑20 RE: Gloats
Well, yes, but big heavy rivet not very susceptible to pounding.  Maybe they
need to head to the soon to be build smithy as a tool steel donor?

J

Joseph Sullivan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: oldtools-bounces@r...
[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Cliff
Rohrabacher, Esq
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:55 PM
To: oldtools@r...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Gloats

If they are riveted you can hammer the rivet. If bolted ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

On 4/20/2012 8:50 PM, Joseph Sullivan wrote:
> Speaking of tin snips, does anyone have suggestions for tightening up 
> old snips that are tool loose in the jaws?
>
> J
>
> Joseph Sullivan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldtools-bounces@r...
> [mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Darrell& 
> Kathy
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:44 PM
> To: James Thompson
> Cc: oldtools List
> Subject: Re: [OldTools] Gloats
>
> On 4/19/2012 12:14 PM, James Thompson wrote:
>
>>   Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds?
> OK Jim, here's a small gloat:
>
> I was riding my bicycle to the commuter train station last Friday when 
> I spotted a tool lying on the road.  I pulled over, waited for the 
> traffic to clear and picked up a pair of tin snips.
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/IMG-20120
> 415-00
> 052.jpg
>
> Free tools.  I love free tools.  Even if it is my 6th pair of tin snips.
>
>>   As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"
> Not for me.  When I can buy unopened boxes of screws at garage sales 
> for 25 cents a box I feel like the Good Times are right now.
> But that was last week's gloat ;^)
>
> --
> Darrell LaRue
> Oakville ON
> Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User
>
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229154 WesG <wesg@g...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
Yet susceptible enough to be a rivet.

Put one side of the rivet on a piece of something heavy and steel, but
not an anvil... (This is a cold forging operation, and it would leave a
mark on your anvil.) Then with a 12 - 20 ounce hammer hit the rivet
around the edges at 12 and 6 o'clock with a medium strength blow. Don't
hit the rivet in the center like a nail. I would hold the snips in such
a way that the axis of the snips is 9 and 3 o'clock, so you're hitting
the edges of the rivet along the snip's side and not the other way.
(just a hunch, no particular reason for this.)

Test the snips.Repeat if necessary.

Should work. Wes

On Apr 20, 2012, at 7:56 PM, "Joseph Sullivan"  wrote:

> not very susceptible to pounding.
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229156 <roygriggs@v...> 2012‑04‑20 RE: Gloats
If ya ain't got a hammer big enough for the rivet, how ya gonna "smithy?" I'm ju
st saying...(tm someone else!)
Roy Griggs
roygriggs@v...
---- Joseph Sullivan  wrote: 
> Well, yes, but big heavy rivet not very susceptible to pounding.  Maybe they
> need to head to the soon to be build smithy as a tool steel donor?
> 
> J
> 
> Joseph Sullivan
> 
>  

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229146 Darrell & Kathy <larchmont@s...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
On 4/19/2012 12:14 PM, James Thompson wrote:

>  Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds?

OK Jim, here's a small gloat:

I was riding my bicycle to the commuter train station last Friday
when I spotted a tool lying on the road.  I pulled over, waited for
the traffic to clear and picked up a pair of tin snips.

http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/IMG-20120415-00052.
jpg

Free tools.  I love free tools.  Even if it is my 6th pair of tin snips.

>  As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"

Not for me.  When I can buy unopened boxes of screws at garage
sales for 25 cents a box I feel like the Good Times are right now.
But that was last week's gloat ;^)

-- 
Darrell LaRue
Oakville ON
Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User

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229150 "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq" <rohrabacher@e...> 2012‑04‑20 Re: Gloats
If they are riveted you can hammer the rivet. If bolted ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

On 4/20/2012 8:50 PM, Joseph Sullivan wrote:
> Speaking of tin snips, does anyone have suggestions for tightening up old
> snips that are tool loose in the jaws?
>
> J
>
> Joseph Sullivan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldtools-bounces@r...
> [mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Darrell&
> Kathy
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 7:44 PM
> To: James Thompson
> Cc: oldtools List
> Subject: Re: [OldTools] Gloats
>
> On 4/19/2012 12:14 PM, James Thompson wrote:
>
>>   Have we just stopped with gloating over tool finds?
> OK Jim, here's a small gloat:
>
> I was riding my bicycle to the commuter train station last Friday when I
> spotted a tool lying on the road.  I pulled over, waited for the traffic to
> clear and picked up a pair of tin snips.
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/IMG-20120415-00
> 052.jpg
>
> Free tools.  I love free tools.  Even if it is my 6th pair of tin snips.
>
>>   As Merle Haggard asked, "Are the good times really over at last?"
> Not for me.  When I can buy unopened boxes of screws at garage sales for 25
> cents a box I feel like the Good Times are right now.
> But that was last week's gloat ;^)
>
> --
> Darrell LaRue
> Oakville ON
> Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User
>
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