Well the first G.O.O.N. prohect is completed with moderate success. I
now have a Saw Till that will accommodate 18 saws... Three slots open :)

I am looking to build a couple of Saw Benches. I see 5 or 6 slightly
different designs out on the net. Those of you who kow me will know that
I am leaning toward "chunky" with ability to utilize holdfasts. Any
experiential wisdom to share??

Thanks in advance.

For the longtime habitues of the porch... of course blood was shed
building the saw till.. :)

Ron a Kokomo Galoot

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Pictures?!

John There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness.

On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:40 AM, "Ron Harper" <ron@c...> wrote:

> Well the first G.O.O.N. prohect is completed with moderate
> success. I now have a Saw Till that will accommodate 18 saws...
> Three slots open :)
>> I am looking to build a couple of Saw Benches. I see 5 or 6 slightly
>> different designs out on the net. Those of you who kow me will know
>> that I am leaning toward "chunky" with ability to utilize holdfasts.
> Any experiential wisdom to share??
>> Thanks in advance. For the longtime habitues of the porch... of
>> course blood was shed building the saw till.. :) Ron a Kokomo Galoot
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Pictures?  Including the blood shed if possible.  We are people of science
and require physical evidence.
On Apr 18, 2012 9:59 AM, "John M. Johnston" <Sgt42RHR@a...> wrote:

> Pictures?!
>
> John
>
> There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness.
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:40 AM, "Ron Harper" <ron@c...> wrote:
>
> > Well the first  G.O.O.N. prohect is completed with moderate success. I
> now have a Saw Till that will accommodate 18 saws... Three slots open :)
> >
> > I am looking to build a couple of Saw Benches. I see 5 or 6 slightly
> different designs out on the net. Those of you who kow me will know that I
> am leaning toward "chunky" with ability to utilize holdfasts.
> > Any experiential wisdom to share??
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > For the longtime habitues of the porch... of course blood was shed
> building the saw till.. :)
> >
> > Ron   a Kokomo Galoot
> >
> >
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Hi Ron,

I made this:

https://picasaweb.google.com/108901587400063562323/AFewMoreThings

Knee height, two holdfasts (Hi, Michael!) that work well, good stability,
made from Borg l by 12s. An additional 2x is beneath the upper board to
support the holdfasts.  Easy peasey to make, I got the idea from an Alaskan
woodworker.  Pretty much did it as he described.

Good luck and put up some pics when you're done.  Very nice saw till, btw.

Regards,

Dwight
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from scrap. each has held 2 grown men standing and working. doubles as
work surface for smaller GIT.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43504378@N.../4259672245/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/43504378@N.../4260426422/in/photostream

-SM-

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One more data point/variation...here's what I have.
http://galootcentral.com/membersites/charlierodgers/projects/sawingBench.html
Charlie Rodgers
Clinton, Maryland - for a couple more months

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Another visual data point, assuming this GIC link comes through in
usable form: <http://galootcentral.com/index.php?option=com_copperminev-
is&Itemid=2&place=displayimage&album=32&pos=0>

        The top is a chunk of ~3x12 pine beam that I found in my barn
        some years back. The slot in the middle of the top can be used
        as a carrying handle, but is large enough to accomodate the head
        of a Jorgensen-style bar clamp for cinching work down as needed.
        Legs are 2x6 scraps set into mortises that leave the top
        unbroken, secured by two long screws. Braces are one-by scraps.
        Tom Holloway-------------------------------------------------------
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_http://galootcentral.com/index.php?option=com_copperminevis&Itemid=2&p-
lacedisplayimage&album=32&pos=2_ (http://galootcentral.com/index.php?op-
tion=com_copperminevis&Itemid=2&place=displayimage&album=32&pos=2)



John M. Johnston "There is a fine line between hobby and mental
illness." Dave Barry


In a message dated 4/19/2012 12:26:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
thholloway@u... writes:

http://galootcentral.com/index.php?option=com_copperminevis&Itemid=2&pl-
ace=d isplayimage&album=32&pos
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My sawbench is here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/104492808362996807504/GClaus2010#

A Galootaclaus gift in 2010 - which qualifies this for the gloat thread too!

Regards,

Mike
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A little late, but here's one I recently made (beech top with SYP
undercarriage) -

http://tinyurl.com/7oxarbb

I haven't found a holdfast hole necessary as of yet but that could
change at some point.

Dennis Heyza
Macomb MI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-
> bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Ron Harper
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:40 AM
> Subject: [OldTools] Saw Benches
> 
> I am looking to build a couple of Saw Benches. I see 5 or 6 slightly
> different designs out on the net. Those of you who kow me will know
> that I am leaning toward "chunky" with ability to utilize holdfasts.

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Thanks for the photo. Question for you folks that have and use a saw bench, Is
the V area adequate for long ripping tasks or do you wish for more area to rip
before adjusting the wood?

thanks,

Archie--who's hoping to take a pic of his own saw bench today...

________________________________
 From: Dennis Heyza <michigaloot@c...>
To: 'Ron Harper' <ron@c...>; oldtools@r... 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: [OldTools] Saw Benches
 
A little late, but here's one I recently made (beech top with SYP
undercarriage) -

http://tinyurl.com/7oxarbb

I haven't found a holdfast hole necessary as of yet but that could
change at some point.

Dennis Heyza
Macomb MI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-
> bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Ron Harper
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:40 AM
> Subject: [OldTools] Saw Benches
> 
> I am looking to build a couple of Saw Benches. I see 5 or 6 slightly
> different designs out on the net. Those of you who kow me will know
> that I am leaning toward "chunky" with ability to utilize holdfasts.

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Dennis,
 I would change to the design with the long off-center rip slot in it if I was
doing it over....simpy so I didn't have to move my board as much....but I've
found mine (centered, shorter slot) adequate so far.
Roy Griggs
roygriggs@v...
 
---- Archie England <christinmedaily@y...> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the photo. Question for you folks that have and use a saw bench, Is
the V area adequate for long ripping tasks or do you wish for more area to rip
before adjusting the wood?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Archie--who's hoping to take a pic of his own saw bench today...
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Dennis Heyza <michigaloot@c...>
> To: 'Ron Harper' <ron@c...>; oldtools@r... 
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:38 AM
> Subject: RE: [OldTools] Saw Benches
>  
> A little late, but here's one I recently made (beech top with SYP
> undercarriage) -
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/7oxarbb
> 
> I haven't found a holdfast hole necessary as of yet but that could
> change at some point.
> 
> Dennis Heyza
> Macomb MI
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-
> > bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Ron Harper
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:40 AM
> > Subject: [OldTools] Saw Benches
> > 
> > I am looking to build a couple of Saw Benches. I see 5 or 6 slightly
> > different designs out on the net. Those of you who kow me will know
> > that I am leaning toward "chunky" with ability to utilize holdfasts.
> 
> 
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   I'm with Roy, I think Ed's rip slot would be very practical.
Charlie Rodgers

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On 4/21/2012 8:38 AM, Dennis Heyza wrote:

>  A little late, but here's one I recently made (beech top with SYP
undercarriage)

Even later to the party, here's mine:

http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/sawbench.jpg

Half a basswood log, 4 pieces of ash for legs. The wood was from trees downed
by the Great Ice Storm of '98. This does multiple duty in and out of the shop as
seating (moaning stool), hewing bench, saw bench, mortising bench, &cetera.
Once in a while I take a jack plane to the top and get it mostly flat.  There
are
two holdfast holes to help keep stuff from moving around.

-- 
Darrell LaRue
Oakville ON
Wood Hoarder, Blade Sharpener, and Occasional Tool User

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Ooooh, I like it. I often see downed wood along the curb, what a
great idea.

Cheers, John

Even later to the party, here's mine: http://galootcentral.com/componen-
ts/cpgalbums/userpics/10074/sawbench.jpg

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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Ron Harper <ron@c...> wrote:
> I am looking to build a couple of Saw Benches. I see 5 or 6 slightly different
designs out on
> the net. Those of you who kow me will know that I am leaning toward "chunky"
with ability to
> utilize holdfasts.
> Any experiential wisdom to share??

I seem to keep building sawbenches.  Here's pictures and comments on
three designs:

http://blog.mwells.org/2012/04/joy-of-sawbenches.html

Also, if you have a GIT, you can build a workbench at the same height
as a sawbench and it can serve double duty.

http://www.mwells.org/woodworking/kid-workbench

Mark
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Do you use a pair of the middle version of a sawbench?

Steve Noe, in Indianapolis
StephenNoe@a...
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Mark Lovett Wells wrote:

>> [snip]
> 
> I seem to keep building sawbenches.  Here's pictures and comments on
> three designs:
> 
> http://blog.mwells.org/2012/04/joy-of-sawbenches.html
> 
> Also, if you have a GIT, you can build a workbench at the same height
> as a sawbench and it can serve double duty.
> 
> http://www.mwells.org/woodworking/kid-workbench
> 
> Mark

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On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Stephen Noe <stephennoe@a...> wrote:
> Do you use a pair of the middle version of a sawbench?

Those three pictures
(http://blog.mwells.org/2012/04/joy-of-sawbenches.html) are of the
three sawbenches that I use in my shop.

When I say that sawbenches have "few design constraints," what I mean
is that basically anything 18" - 26" (?) tall can be used.  For months
I used picnic table benches.  Buckets.  Stairs.  Chairs.  Cinder
blocks.  Whatever works, as long as they  are all at the same height.

I use 3 sawbenches because they help when cutting down long boards.  I
put two of the sawbenches on the "long" side of the board and one on
the "short" side.  Furthermore, I position the bench on the short side
parallel to the board.  In that configuration, after the cut is
complete, nothing falls.

Mark
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> Thanks for the photo. Question for you folks that have and use a saw bench, Is
the V area adequate for long ripping tasks or do you wish for more area to rip
before adjusting the wood?
>

Archie,

I'd forgo the V end and design in some long gaps, instead.

Mine is shown below.  Note the slats in the top, and that the
cross-braces are low enough that the tip of the saw doesn't hit them
when ripping.  An alternative would have been to put them very high.

It's a totally different approach than splayed-leg style, like this  --

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_E28YaFhFpzI/SlH5ppdJ8nI/AAAAAAAAAEA/vB2g_JIbeb4/s320/Saw+Bench.JPG

Mine has straight legs, which allows letting the board stick out over
the side and sawing without hitting the legs; it also allows clamping.

The top is intentionally slatted (1" x 4"), to allow clamping in between.

I made it about mid-thigh, as that's still high enough to use my leg
to hold it down, but also allows it to be used like a WorkMate.

I have a hook on the tail end, which I hang ballast (jugs o' sand) --
which makes it sufficiently heavy to not "kick up" when I use it for
planing.

Here's the end, with the jug o' ballast --
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uOqjGF8npTk/TuQ7nobb4rI/AAAAAAAABBY/dCP2gZ9m0Wo/s1600/weight.JPG

Clamped a piece of wood on the end, as a planing stop (or in this
instance, a whetstone stop) --
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1A5GqLkom64/TuQ7xeIRaBI/AAAAAAAABBw/pI0Jmbo9Fjw/s1600/stone.JPG

Clamped a cleat, to edge-plane a board (in the kitchen!!!) --
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4WmgAF_6MdU/TuQ71jZd7QI/AAAAAAAABB8/5NfrEdYkkHE/s1600/using.JPG

So: my design advice would be to have it be **taller** than knee
height; perpendicular surfaces; with many gaps to allow flexibility in
clamping.  You then end up with something that can be a sawbench
**and** a mini-workbench.

(NOTE:  No magic dimensions.  My (above) sawbench was made out of six
pieces of wood that I found by the side of the road.  The design
challenge was to make the largest sawbench that I could, while
minimizing waste yet maintaining sturdiness.)

--Travis (Brisbane, AU)
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