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208811 | Gary Roberts <toolemera@m...> | 2010‑10‑05 | Re: Circular or compassed rebate plane, and spar plane. |
Mike You don't want those in your collection. Please mail them to me and I'll pay pos tage. Ok... the small one is a carriagemakers hollow and the large one is a carriagema kers grooving (some call it a plow) plane. The small one is worth a nice bit and the grooving/plow is worth a ton of bucks. Gary ............................... Gary Roberts The Toolemera Press - http://toolemera.com Shop - http://shop.toolemera.com Blog - http://toolemerablog.typepad.com Hand Tool Makers - http://handtoolmakers.com "I'ld rather read a good book, than write a poor one." Christopher Morley On Oct 5, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Mick Dowling wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/110606900822928930073/CircularRebatePlaneAndSpar Plane# ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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208810 | Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> | 2010‑10‑05 | Circular or compassed rebate plane, and spar plane. |
GGs Recently had the brief pleasure of temporarily having in my hands a seriously nice, and seriously unusual circular rebate plane. I will now need to retract my statement from a few weeks ago when I described a James Swan adjustable hollow auger as, =8Cthe snappiest bit of 100 year old woodworking gadgetry that I've ever managed to own=B9. Pics are here:http://picasaweb.google.com/110606900822928930073/Circula- rRebatePlaneAndSpar Plane# The plane has no. 86 stamped in 6 or more places, and I can only assume these would be assembly marks. No makers mark. Also in the photographs is a small, what I can only describe as a spar plane. Compassed across its base. Interestingly it is handed. Fits like a right hand glove when in the right hand, and similarly but uncomfortably still fits like a right hand glove when held in the left hand. No makers mark on the spar plane either. Both came out of a carriagemakers kit. Mick Dowling Melbourne ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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208827 | Ed Minch <ruby@m...> | 2010‑10‑06 | Re: Circular or compassed rebate plane, and spar plane. |
On Oct 6, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Jordan, Wolfgang wrote: > there is a very interesting entry with lots of pictures and > information in a French forum about carriagemaker's grooving planes: > > http://outils-anciens.xooit.fr/t33-Les-bouvets-de-carrossier.htm > > Planes like the smaller one were made by different companies and up > to more recent times. Here's a page from a 1940 catalog by Friedrich > Ott, maker of the famous Frankenplanes ("Frankenhobel") ;-) > > http://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/kataloge/ott2_47.jpg > > Wolfgang GG Sorry for the bandwidth, but this list is an amazing place. Ed Minch Heading to Seattle for his 39th Anniversary ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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208825 | "Jordan, Wolfgang" <wolfgang.jordan@t...> | 2010‑10‑06 | RE: Circular or compassed rebate plane, and spar plane. |
> Mick found a nice plane: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/110606900822928930073/CircularRebatePlane- > AndSparPlane# Mick, there is a very interesting entry with lots of pictures and information in a French forum about carriagemaker's grooving planes: http://outils-anciens.xooit.fr/t33-Les-bouvets-de-carrossier.htm You will find a plane just like yours on page 3 (the one that sold for 1600 $). There were a lot of different types in Europe, and the one you found was made in Germany and is known as "Schweriner Nuthobel" (grooving plane "Schwerin" pattern). Unfortunately I do not know much about these planes other than they were obviously made in the city of Schwerin (Northern Germany) by one or a group of makers. Planes like the smaller one were made by different companies and up to more recent times. Here's a page from a 1940 catalog by Friedrich Ott, maker of the famous Frankenplanes ("Frankenhobel") ;-) http://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/kataloge/ott2_47.jpg Wolfgang ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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208839 | Mick Dowling <spacelysprocket@b...> | 2010‑10‑07 | Re: Circular or compassed rebate plane, and spar plane. |
Hello Wolfgang Thanks for the links. I was surprised at how many variations there are. My knowledge of French runs to about a dozen words, but my knowledge of $ =E2=82=AC =C2=A3 signs is broad. The value of some of these planes was surprising, and disheartening at the same time. The plane is not mine. I picked up a kit of tools that will be sold on behalf of the owner by the Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia, the local Melbourne tool club. I had hoped I might be able to buy it, but that=E2=80=99s looking unlikely now! Some questions for anyone on the list who has used or knows how to use the plane. The brass half round =E2=80=98guide=E2=80=99 for want of a better word, I=E2=80=99d like to know how it works. Why is it this shape? Is the plane primarily used to run a groove parallel to a half round shape already run? The smaller plane that I was calling a spar plane, is called a Speichenhobel in the catalogue link you sent me. Speichenhobel, translates via Babel Fish to =E2=80=98Spoke Plane=E2=80=99. Mick Dowling Melbourne On 6/10/10 8:44 PM, "Jordan, Wolfgang" |
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