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206728 John Holladay <docholladay0820@g Jul-30-2010 Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,
Esteemed gentlemen,

I have two questions today.

Someone gave me an old wooden plane.  It is a 15" long, beech plane made by
Ohio Tool Co.  The iron is 1 3/4 inches wide and has plenty of life left in
it.  The wood is in good condition.  The tote has a crack in it, but I
believe it will glue up nicely.  Someone attached what appears to be a
wooden cabinet knob to the front of it.  I think I can come up with
something more effective for that, although, I kind of doubt it originally
had a front knob.  There is one major problem.  At some point in this poor
tools history, someone thought it would be a good idea to paint this tool.
Even worse, it was painted an obnoxious, ugly shade of green.  It looks like
it was painted with spray paint.  Any suggestions as to how I should remove
this paint that will not cause any more harm to the wood than absolutely
necessary?  I know better than to simply start sanding the paint off, but
not sure about using a chemical stripper or something like that.  Also, what
should I apply to the wood to condition/protect it once I get it back to the
way that it should be?

Also, I picked up a Stanley #80 Cabinet Scraper ($5.00), but it does not
have a blade.  I have an old used up Disston that I picked up in order to
salvage the screws and nuts.  I have been intending to make some card
scrapers from what is left of the saw plate.  Would the steel from this saw
be adequate to make a new blade for the #80?

Thank you,

Doc

-- 
John Holladay
DocHolladay0820@g...
205-259-3001
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206729 "Bill Taggart" <w.taggart@v...> Jul-30-2010 RE: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,
 

::-----Original Message-----
::From: oldtools-bounces@r... 
::[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of 
::John Holladay
::Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:09 AM
::To: Old Tools
::Subject: [OldTools] Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this 
::thing,and why that color?

::Someone gave me an old wooden plane.

[SNIP]

::At some point in this poor tools history, someone thought it would be a
good idea to 
::paint this tool.

::It looks like
::it was painted with spray paint.  Any suggestions as to how I 
::should remove
::this paint that will not cause any more harm to the wood than 
::absolutely necessary?

Well, because your description sounds like a pretty ordinary and relatively
common wooden jack plane in not terribly good condition, I would not fret
too much about stripping the paint off.  I would use a methanol/methylene
chloride paint stripper - in a well-ventilated area (like outdoors) and
using the proper rubber gloves and eye protection.  I have an old metal pan
that formerly was a baking pan (like you'd make brownies in) that I use for
such operations.  Put the plane in the pan, pour some stripper in there, and
use some medium steel wool to rub it all over and wipe the paint off.  The
stripper I'm talking about is a pretty volatile liquid, not that gooey gel
stuff.  It works very quickly and evaporates away quickly, so it doesn't
really do any damage to the wood.  I use the steel wool like scrubbing
sponge - dip it in the liquid, scrub the plane, allowing the liquid to run
back down into the pan.  You might have to do a couple applications,
changing to clean stripper along the way, to get it really clean.

You might need to use an old toothbrush and single-edge razor blades (I use
utility knife blades) to get all the paint and encrusted goop out of the
corners and crevices.  Just be careful not to gouge or scrape the wood.  You
just want to scrape off the surface layer of paint and crud.

Once all the paint is gone, wipe the plane down well with rags or papers
towels and let it dry.  It probably will look pretty terrible at that point.
I might give it a little cleaning with soapy water - not a soaking, mind
you, more of a wipe-down to just clean away dirt and grunge.  Repair any
damage at this stage, when it's bare wood.  

As for the finish, see Tony Seo's Galoot Magic Formula:
http://oldetoolshop.com/jointer/formula.html

An even simpler finish is just use a good hard paste wax, like Butcher's
Wax, but that won't get a nice warm glow, like Tony's concoction will.  

- Bill T.

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206730 "Maddex, Peter" <peter.maddex@n. Jul-30-2010 RE: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,
Hi,

Saw blade will fine in the No80 (scraper plane Jeff) the spray paint
might scrape off depends if they cleaned up before painting, with a bit
of luck it won't have stuck so might come off easy.

Pete

Peter Michael Maddex Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know BLS Workplace
Services Nottingham Trent University

-----Original Message----- From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-
bounces@r...] On Behalf Of John Holladay Sent: 30 July 2010 14:09 To:
Old Tools Subject: [OldTools] Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this
thing,and why that color?

Esteemed gentlemen,

I have two questions today.

Someone gave me an old wooden plane. It is a 15" long, beech plane made
by Ohio Tool Co. The iron is 1 3/4 inches wide and has plenty of life
left in it. The wood is in good condition. The tote has a crack in it,
but I believe it will glue up nicely. Someone attached what appears to
be a wooden cabinet knob to the front of it. I think I can come up with
something more effective for that, although, I kind of doubt it
originally had a front knob. There is one major problem. At some point
in this poor tools history, someone thought it would be a good idea to
paint this tool. Even worse, it was painted an obnoxious, ugly shade of
green. It looks like it was painted with spray paint. Any suggestions as
to how I should remove this paint that will not cause any more harm to
the wood than absolutely necessary? I know better than to simply start
sanding the paint off, but not sure about using a chemical stripper or
something like that. Also, what should I apply to the wood to
condition/protect it once I get it back to the way that it should be?

Also, I picked up a Stanley #80 Cabinet Scraper ($5.00), but it does not
have a blade. I have an old used up Disston that I picked up in order to
salvage the screws and nuts. I have been intending to make some card
scrapers from what is left of the saw plate. Would the steel from this
saw be adequate to make a new blade for the #80?

Thank you,

Doc

--John Holladay DocHolladay0820@g... 205-259-3001
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206731 Ed Minch <ruby@m...> Jul-30-2010 Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,

>
>
>
> Well, because your description sounds like a pretty ordinary and  
> relatively
> common wooden jack plane in not terribly good condition, I would not  
> fret
> too much about stripping the paint off.

What Bill said.  A plane body is the perfect shape for  a stripping  
trick.  Brush on the stripper, then wrap the body in clear kitchen  
wrap (saran wrap, cling wrap, etc).  This will keep it from  
evaporating, and all you have to do is come back in a 1/2 hour and the  
paint all falls off.  Won't damage the wood, and won't alter the  
unpainted areas either.

Ed Minch

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206732 "Bill Taggart" <w.taggart@v...> Jul-30-2010 RE: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,
Oh yeah, and -  

::-----Original Message-----
::From: oldtools-bounces@r... 
::[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of 
::John Holladay
::Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:09 AM
::To: Old Tools
::Subject: [OldTools] Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this 
::thing,and why that color?

::Also, I picked up a Stanley #80 Cabinet Scraper ($5.00), but 
::it does not
::have a blade.  I have an old used up Disston that I picked up 
::in order to
::salvage the screws and nuts.  I have been intending to make some card
::scrapers from what is left of the saw plate.  Would the steel 
::from this saw
::be adequate to make a new blade for the #80?

Yes.

- Bill T.

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206742 Spike Cornelius <spikethebike@c. Jul-30-2010 Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,

On Jul 30, 2010, at 6:09 AM, John Holladay wrote:

> Would the steel from this saw
> be adequate to make a new blade for the #80?

  This goes against the Galoot Thrift ethos, butt while a chunk of saw  
plate will get you scraping, a chunk of Ron's #80 scraper blade will  
take you into scraper nirvana. As the tool was so cheap, you can  
afford to make it better than it ever was this way.

  No affiliation, just a blissful scraper.

Spike Cornelius
PDX
           Crazy for Shavings

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206745 Spike Cornelius <spikethebike@c. Jul-30-2010 Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,
  Obtusity is my middle name!

On Jul 30, 2010, at 3:00 PM, John Holladay wrote:

> Never mind, I assume you are referring to Ron Hock and I found it.   
> I was just a bit slow there.
>

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206757 Charlie Driggs <cdinde@v...> Jul-31-2010 Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,
Good place to start would be  www.hocktools.com .... some other  
outlets carry Ron's stuff too, and sometimes at slightly lower  
pricing, but why not buy right from our on-list buddy and select from  
his full range of products?

... the usual Galoot disclaimer applies here folks;  no financial  
affiliation, just a superbly satisfied customer over the years ...

Charlie Driggs

Doc Holladay wrote:

Where does one get a Ron's #80 scraper blade?  Can't say I have ever  
been to
"Scraper Nirvana."

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