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| 206728 | John Holladay <docholladay0820@g | Jul-30-2010 | Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
Esteemed gentlemen, I have two questions today. Someone gave me an old wooden plane. It is a 15" long, beech plane made by Ohio Tool Co. The iron is 1 3/4 inches wide and has plenty of life left in it. The wood is in good condition. The tote has a crack in it, but I believe it will glue up nicely. Someone attached what appears to be a wooden cabinet knob to the front of it. I think I can come up with something more effective for that, although, I kind of doubt it originally had a front knob. There is one major problem. At some point in this poor tools history, someone thought it would be a good idea to paint this tool. Even worse, it was painted an obnoxious, ugly shade of green. It looks like it was painted with spray paint. Any suggestions as to how I should remove this paint that will not cause any more harm to the wood than absolutely necessary? I know better than to simply start sanding the paint off, but not sure about using a chemical stripper or something like that. Also, what should I apply to the wood to condition/protect it once I get it back to the way that it should be? Also, I picked up a Stanley #80 Cabinet Scraper ($5.00), but it does not have a blade. I have an old used up Disston that I picked up in order to salvage the screws and nuts. I have been intending to make some card scrapers from what is left of the saw plate. Would the steel from this saw be adequate to make a new blade for the #80? Thank you, Doc -- John Holladay DocHolladay0820@g... 205-259-3001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 206729 | "Bill Taggart" <w.taggart@v...> | Jul-30-2010 | RE: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
::-----Original Message----- ::From: oldtools-bounces@r... ::[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of ::John Holladay ::Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:09 AM ::To: Old Tools ::Subject: [OldTools] Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this ::thing,and why that color? ::Someone gave me an old wooden plane. [SNIP] ::At some point in this poor tools history, someone thought it would be a good idea to ::paint this tool. ::It looks like ::it was painted with spray paint. Any suggestions as to how I ::should remove ::this paint that will not cause any more harm to the wood than ::absolutely necessary? Well, because your description sounds like a pretty ordinary and relatively common wooden jack plane in not terribly good condition, I would not fret too much about stripping the paint off. I would use a methanol/methylene chloride paint stripper - in a well-ventilated area (like outdoors) and using the proper rubber gloves and eye protection. I have an old metal pan that formerly was a baking pan (like you'd make brownies in) that I use for such operations. Put the plane in the pan, pour some stripper in there, and use some medium steel wool to rub it all over and wipe the paint off. The stripper I'm talking about is a pretty volatile liquid, not that gooey gel stuff. It works very quickly and evaporates away quickly, so it doesn't really do any damage to the wood. I use the steel wool like scrubbing sponge - dip it in the liquid, scrub the plane, allowing the liquid to run back down into the pan. You might have to do a couple applications, changing to clean stripper along the way, to get it really clean. You might need to use an old toothbrush and single-edge razor blades (I use utility knife blades) to get all the paint and encrusted goop out of the corners and crevices. Just be careful not to gouge or scrape the wood. You just want to scrape off the surface layer of paint and crud. Once all the paint is gone, wipe the plane down well with rags or papers towels and let it dry. It probably will look pretty terrible at that point. I might give it a little cleaning with soapy water - not a soaking, mind you, more of a wipe-down to just clean away dirt and grunge. Repair any damage at this stage, when it's bare wood. As for the finish, see Tony Seo's Galoot Magic Formula: http://oldetoolshop.com/jointer/formula.html An even simpler finish is just use a good hard paste wax, like Butcher's Wax, but that won't get a nice warm glow, like Tony's concoction will. - Bill T. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 206730 | "Maddex, Peter" <peter.maddex@n. | Jul-30-2010 | RE: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
Hi, Saw blade will fine in the No80 (scraper plane Jeff) the spray paint might scrape off depends if they cleaned up before painting, with a bit of luck it won't have stuck so might come off easy. Pete Peter Michael Maddex Mad Bad and Dangerous to Know BLS Workplace Services Nottingham Trent University -----Original Message----- From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools- bounces@r...] On Behalf Of John Holladay Sent: 30 July 2010 14:09 To: Old Tools Subject: [OldTools] Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing,and why that color? Esteemed gentlemen, I have two questions today. Someone gave me an old wooden plane. It is a 15" long, beech plane made by Ohio Tool Co. The iron is 1 3/4 inches wide and has plenty of life left in it. The wood is in good condition. The tote has a crack in it, but I believe it will glue up nicely. Someone attached what appears to be a wooden cabinet knob to the front of it. I think I can come up with something more effective for that, although, I kind of doubt it originally had a front knob. There is one major problem. At some point in this poor tools history, someone thought it would be a good idea to paint this tool. Even worse, it was painted an obnoxious, ugly shade of green. It looks like it was painted with spray paint. Any suggestions as to how I should remove this paint that will not cause any more harm to the wood than absolutely necessary? I know better than to simply start sanding the paint off, but not sure about using a chemical stripper or something like that. Also, what should I apply to the wood to condition/protect it once I get it back to the way that it should be? Also, I picked up a Stanley #80 Cabinet Scraper ($5.00), but it does not have a blade. I have an old used up Disston that I picked up in order to salvage the screws and nuts. I have been intending to make some card scrapers from what is left of the saw plate. Would the steel from this saw be adequate to make a new blade for the #80? Thank you, Doc --John Holladay DocHolladay0820@g... 205-259-3001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 206731 | Ed Minch <ruby@m...> | Jul-30-2010 | Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
> > > > Well, because your description sounds like a pretty ordinary and > relatively > common wooden jack plane in not terribly good condition, I would not > fret > too much about stripping the paint off. What Bill said. A plane body is the perfect shape for a stripping trick. Brush on the stripper, then wrap the body in clear kitchen wrap (saran wrap, cling wrap, etc). This will keep it from evaporating, and all you have to do is come back in a 1/2 hour and the paint all falls off. Won't damage the wood, and won't alter the unpainted areas either. Ed Minch ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 206732 | "Bill Taggart" <w.taggart@v...> | Jul-30-2010 | RE: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
Oh yeah, and - ::-----Original Message----- ::From: oldtools-bounces@r... ::[mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...] On Behalf Of ::John Holladay ::Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:09 AM ::To: Old Tools ::Subject: [OldTools] Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this ::thing,and why that color? ::Also, I picked up a Stanley #80 Cabinet Scraper ($5.00), but ::it does not ::have a blade. I have an old used up Disston that I picked up ::in order to ::salvage the screws and nuts. I have been intending to make some card ::scrapers from what is left of the saw plate. Would the steel ::from this saw ::be adequate to make a new blade for the #80? Yes. - Bill T. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 206742 | Spike Cornelius <spikethebike@c. | Jul-30-2010 | Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
On Jul 30, 2010, at 6:09 AM, John Holladay wrote:
> Would the steel from this saw
> be adequate to make a new blade for the #80?
This goes against the Galoot Thrift ethos, butt while a chunk of saw
plate will get you scraping, a chunk of Ron's #80 scraper blade will
take you into scraper nirvana. As the tool was so cheap, you can
afford to make it better than it ever was this way.
No affiliation, just a blissful scraper.
Spike Cornelius
PDX
Crazy for Shavings
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| 206745 | Spike Cornelius <spikethebike@c. | Jul-30-2010 | Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
Obtusity is my middle name! On Jul 30, 2010, at 3:00 PM, John Holladay wrote: > Never mind, I assume you are referring to Ron Hock and I found it. > I was just a bit slow there. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
| 206757 | Charlie Driggs <cdinde@v...> | Jul-31-2010 | Re: Auugggh!! Why did someone paint this thing, |
Good place to start would be www.hocktools.com .... some other outlets carry Ron's stuff too, and sometimes at slightly lower pricing, but why not buy right from our on-list buddy and select from his full range of products? ... the usual Galoot disclaimer applies here folks; no financial affiliation, just a superbly satisfied customer over the years ... Charlie Driggs Doc Holladay wrote: Where does one get a Ron's #80 scraper blade? Can't say I have ever been to "Scraper Nirvana." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
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