GGs,

I have come across several Craftsman branded tools marked "Craftsman,  
Made in U.S.A. 107.1". They all seem to have the 1950s era logo. I  
have tools that I believe were made by Millers Falls and Sargent. Any  
idea what the 107.1 meant?

Thanks,
	Josh
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Joshua Clark wrote:
>
> I have come across several Craftsman branded tools marked "Craftsman, 
> Made in U.S.A. 107.1". They all seem to have the 1950s era logo. I 
> have tools that I believe were made by Millers Falls and Sargent. Any 
> idea what the 107.1 meant?
>
There is supposedly a method to the madness
http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/sears_numbers.shtml

Unfortunately, 107 isn't on this list

Here's one that says 107 is MF
http://www.allischalmers.com/new/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10701&PID=82476&title=craftsman-table-saw-parts

In a quick check of my tools, none of my Craftsman have that numbering

The MF made have a xCbb, where x is the Stanley plane size
The Sargent made have nothing

-- 
Kirk Eppler
Pharmaceutical and Packaging Engineering

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Josh wants to know who actually made his Craftsman tool.

Here's the most complete supplier list that I know of.

        http://owwm.com/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx?sort JL
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On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Kirk Eppler wrote:

> Joshua Clark wrote:
>>
>> I have come across several Craftsman branded tools marked  
>> "Craftsman, Made in U.S.A. 107.1". They all seem to have the 1950s  
>> era logo. I have tools that I believe were made by Millers Falls  
>> and Sargent. Any idea what the 107.1 meant?
>>
> There is supposedly a method to the madness
> http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/sears_numbers.shtml
>
> Unfortunately, 107 isn't on this list
>

All:

Interesting that Stanley is on the older Craftsman list that has M-F  
on it, but not on the current list.  The new list may not be complete,  
but could this mean that Sears doesn't have any more Stanley tools in  
disguise?

Ed

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Ed Minch wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Kirk Eppler wrote:
>> Joshua Clark wrote:
>>> I have come across several Craftsman branded tools marked 
>>> "Craftsman, Made in U.S.A. 107.1". They all seem to have the 1950s 
>>> era logo. I have tools that I believe were made by Millers Falls and 
>>> Sargent. Any idea what the 107.1 meant?
>> There is supposedly a method to the madness
>> http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/sears_numbers.shtml
>>
>> Unfortunately, 107 isn't on this list
>
> Interesting that Stanley is on the older Craftsman list that has M-F 
> on it, but not on the current list.  The new list may not be complete, 
> but could this mean that Sears doesn't have any more Stanley tools in 
> disguise?
>
That Woodcentral list goes back to the early part of the badger pond 
days, so its REALLY old by internet standards.  It was the first one I 
knew of.  When I didn't see 107, I went prowling.

-- 
Kirk Eppler
Pharmaceutical and Packaging Engineering

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  I notice that none of the lists include Sargent tools. I have a block
  plane that I am pretty sure is a Sargent, that has no markings except
  for Craftsman on the iron. So what's up with that?

  Spike Cornelius PDX Crazy for Shavings

On Jul 28, 2010, at 4:34 AM, John wrote:

> Josh wants to know who actually made his Craftsman tool.
>
> Here's the most complete supplier list that I know of.
>
>       http://owwm.com/Craftsman/manufacturers.aspx?sort> JL

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If you Google "Craftsman" and "Made in USA 107.1" you'll see Stanley
No. 78 irons stamped with it:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/craftsman-rabbet-plane-stanley-78-copy-with

scraper that the seller says looks like Sargent:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/old-craftsman-adjustable-iron-scraper-plane

breast drill (no picture):
http://www.roseantiquetools.com/store/product4697.html
but here's another:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2431904490061326037jCLnQp

Yankee type screwdrivers: http://www.roseantiquetools.com/store/page30.html

It seems clear that the 107.1 was not a Miller Falls number, or a
Stanley Number or a Sargent number, but meant something across all
sorts of Craftsman tools. A connection that seems obscure but too much
of a coincidence to dismiss is found in (of all places) the November
3, 1990 issue of BMJ (British Medical Journal). On the 2nd page of
this PDF article:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1664043/pdf/bmj00204-0017.pdf
is a Table 1 : "Jobs classified as dirty, and their ICD Codes". You'll
never guess which job corresponds to ICD Code 107.1 - "Craftsman,
laborer".

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE
Yes, Google-Fu IS my superpower.
: )
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The OWWM manufacturer list shows that the same prefix number was  
applied to multiple companies. It is silent as to why that is so.

I have a Craftsman miter box from the 1960's that's clearly a Langdon.  
Who else back then but Millers Falls could have made it?

A little googling this morning turned up this note about Sargent  
having made planes under the Craftsman brand. See the next to last  
page at:

	http://www.thckk.org/history/sargent.pdf

JL

On Jul 31, 2010, at 12:09 AM, CheekyGeek wrote:

> It seems clear that the 107.1 was not a Miller Falls number, or a
> Stanley Number or a Sargent number, but meant something across all
> sorts of Craftsman tools.
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