Whilst I admire the immaculately finished and over-engineered tools
exemplified by Karl Holtey's creations, I also have a sneaking fondness
for the results of "I needed to do a job so I made a quick tool"
expediency.

I've recently encountered two such items, a hacked-from-oak and a blade
held by a coach bolt stail engine (seen at a car boot sale) and a lathe
whose simplicity can only be terms "majestic", seen at auction.

Herewith for the enjoyment of the assembled galooteri:

http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/stail.jpg

http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/old_treadl-
e_lathe.jpg

   BugBear
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me too. sometimes I spend more time jigging a thing than making
the thing.

paul womack wrote:
> Whilst I admire the immaculately finished and over-engineered tools
> exemplified by Karl Holtey's creations, I also have a sneaking
> fondness for the results of "I needed to do a job so I made a quick
> tool" expediency.
>
> I've recently encountered two such items, a hacked-from-oak and a
> blade held by a coach bolt stail engine (seen at a car boot sale) and
> a lathe whose simplicity can only be terms "majestic", seen at
> auction.
>
> Herewith for the enjoyment of the assembled galooteri:
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/stail.jpg
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/old_trea-
> dle_lathe.jpg
>
>
>   BugBear
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Did either of those beauties follow you home? :)

paul womack wrote:
> Whilst I admire the immaculately finished and over-engineered tools
> exemplified by Karl Holtey's creations, I also have a sneaking
> fondness for the results of "I needed to do a job so I made a quick
> tool" expediency.
>
> I've recently encountered two such items, a hacked-from-oak and a
> blade held by a coach bolt stail engine (seen at a car boot sale) and
> a lathe whose simplicity can only be terms "majestic", seen at
> auction.
>
> Herewith for the enjoyment of the assembled galooteri:
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/stail.jpg
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/old_trea-
> dle_lathe.jpg
>
>
>   BugBear
>
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BB,
Anti Holtey?
Yes..and for a moment flashing through my mind were the reasons that infill
planes are a failure of an idea, but wait...put that thought aside.

Looking at the stail engine, I see a use for all those blades I can't bring
myself to throw away, those getting a bit on the short side, and with the
tops mushroomed and bent...anyone need blades for making stail engines??
Paul, did I see a plan for that type of stail engines somewhere with blade
angles and such described? Was it one of yours?

Regards,
Peter,
In Melbourne, Australia

paul womack wrote:
> Whilst I admire the immaculately finished
> and over-engineered tools exemplified
> by Karl Holtey's creations, I also
> have a sneaking fondness for the
> results of "I needed to do a job
> so I made a quick tool" expediency.
>
> I've recently encountered two such items,
> a hacked-from-oak and a blade held by a coach
> bolt stail engine (seen at a car boot sale)
> and a lathe whose simplicity can only
> be terms "majestic", seen at auction.
>
> Herewith for the enjoyment of the
> assembled galooteri:
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/stail.jpg
>
>
http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/old_treadle_la
the.jpg
>
>
>   BugBear

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::  -----Original Message-----
::  From: oldtools-bounces@r...
::  [mailto:oldtools-bounces@r...]On Behalf Of Peter
::  McBride
::  Sent: 15 November 2008 06:46
::  To: pjmcbride@o...
::  Cc: oldtools
::  Subject: RE: [OldTools] Anti Holtey?
::
::
::  Looking at the stail engine, I see a use for all those blades I
::  can't bring
::  myself to throw away, those getting a bit on the short side,
::  and with the
::  tops mushroomed and bent...anyone need blades for making stail engines??

Although Salaman doesn't distinguish between them, a stail engine, according
to the late Fred Lambert, is an adjustable device for tapering a stail. I'd
call this a rounder (or rotary plane to speak posh). At the bottom of p 351
he has one rather like the one Paul saw.

Having made a few wooden ones, I find it interesting to see that the
auctioned router has the blade fixed 'bevel up'.

Fred's metal rounders are bedded at 30deg to the tangent and the bevel-down
iron is ground at 25deg.

Jeff
--
Jeff Gorman, West Yorkshire, UK
http://www.amgron.clara.net

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paul womack wrote:
>
> http://galootcentral.com/components/cpgalbums/userpics/10152/old_trea-
> dle_lathe.jpg

With apologies for bandwidth use, could the gracious galoot who
expressed enjoyment in this lathe contact me - I have some more
photographs of it.

   BugBear
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