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184315 Sgt42RHR@a... Nov-02-2008 Beardshaw & Son saw
Gentle Galoots,

As part of the re-do of the inside of the house, we in the process of
painting everything. This necessitated the move of an old corner
cabinet that's stood in the bedroom for years. Behind it I found a
tenon saw that I now recall getting as part of a 'Bay deal for some
other tool; I guess it had fallen behind the corner cabinet and I had
forgotten about it.

At any rate, it's a London pattern handle, two split-nuts, and stamped
Beardshaw & Son on the back. What is known about Beardshaw & Son? It's a
bit rusty, the handle is a bit loose but I think it's restorable.

I would greatly appreciate any information on this saw maker.

Cheers, John

John M. Johnston "There is a fine line between hobby and mental
illness." Dave Barry

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184318 "Peter Evans" <peterrevans@o...> Nov-03-2008 RE: Beardshaw & Son saw
Have a look at:

http://www.wkfinetools.com/hUK/BeardshawJ/index.asp

Cheers
Peter Evans
Sydney, Australia
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Subject: [OldTools] Beardshaw & Son saw

Gentle Galoots,
 
As part of the re-do of the inside of the house, we in the  process of 
painting everything.  This necessitated the move of an old  corner cabinet
that's 
stood in the bedroom for years.  Behind it I found a  tenon saw that I now 
recall getting as part of a 'Bay deal for some other tool;  I guess it had
fallen 
behind the corner cabinet and I had forgotten about  it.
 
At any rate, it's a London pattern handle, two split-nuts, and stamped  
Beardshaw & Son on the back.  What is known about Beardshaw &  Son?  It's a
bit 
rusty, the handle is a bit loose but I think it's  restorable.
 
I would greatly appreciate any information on this saw maker.
 
Cheers,
John

John M. Johnston
"There is a fine line between hobby and  mental illness." Dave Barry

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184320 Sgt42RHR@a... Nov-02-2008 Re: Beardshaw & Son saw
Thank you so much Peter, this is good stuff. I'm wondering at the age of
this tenon saw that has no medallion, two split nuts, London Pattern
handle, and the only stamp on the back appears to be Beardshaw and Son,
no Sheffield, no cast steel.

Again, thank you Peter.

Cheers, John

peterrevans@o... writes: Have a look at:
http://www.wkfinetools.com/hUK/BeardshawJ/index.asp

John M. Johnston "There is a fine line between hobby and mental
illness." Dave Barry

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184321 "Peter Evans" <peterrevans@o...> Nov-03-2008 RE: Beardshaw & Son saw
Well probably early. Firm started 1825, and the London pattern is generally
an indication of pre-1840 in major firms. Two screws rather than 3 is also
an indicator of early, especially if they are small heads. Depending on saw
size no medallion is an indication of early. Fewer words on the back is an
early indicator as well. So short of photos, could be pre 1850. If you email
me photos I will send to Simon Barley, I don't think he follows this list,
and he is the most knowledgeable on dating British saws.

Cheers
Peter Evans
Sydney, Australia

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Sent: Monday, 3 November 2008 10:49 AM
To: oldtools@r...
Subject: Re: [OldTools] Beardshaw & Son saw

Thank you so much Peter, this is good stuff.  I'm wondering at the age  of 
this tenon saw that has no medallion, two split nuts, London Pattern handle,

and the only stamp on the back appears to be Beardshaw and Son, no
Sheffield, no 
 cast steel.
 
Again, thank you Peter.
 
Cheers,
John
 
peterrevans@o... writes:
Have a look  at:
http://www.wkfinetools.com/hUK/BeardshawJ/index.asp

John M.  Johnston
"There is a fine line between hobby and mental illness." Dave  Barry
 

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184331 "Ray Gardiner" <ray@e...> Nov-03-2008 RE: Beardshaw & Son saw

Hi Peter,

Good observations, any idea as to when the firm added the "& Son" That
might provide a lower bound for the date. I suspect it was fairly
early on as in the White's 1833 directory listing it is "Johnathan
Beardshaw & Son"

Regards Ray

On 11/3/2008, "Peter Evans" <peterrevans@o...> wrote:

>Well probably early. Firm started 1825, and the London pattern is
>generally an indication of pre-1840 in major firms. Two screws rather
>than 3 is also an indicator of early, especially if they are small
>heads. Depending on saw size no medallion is an indication of early.
>Fewer words on the back is an early indicator as well. So short of
>photos, could be pre 1850. If you email me photos I will send to Simon
>Barley, I don't think he follows this list, and he is the most
>knowledgeable on dating British saws.
>
>Cheers Peter Evans Sydney, Australia
>
>-----Original Message----- From: oldtools-bounces@r... [mailto:oldtools-
>bounces@r...] On Behalf Of Sgt42RHR@a... Sent: Monday, 3 November 2008
>10:49 AM To: oldtools@r... Subject: Re: [OldTools] Beardshaw & Son saw
>
>Thank you so much Peter, this is good stuff. I'm wondering at the age
>of this tenon saw that has no medallion, two split nuts, London
>Pattern handle,
>
>and the only stamp on the back appears to be Beardshaw and Son, no
>Sheffield, no cast steel.
>
>Again, thank you Peter.
>
>Cheers, John
>
>peterrevans@o... writes: Have a look at:
>http://www.wkfinetools.com/hUK/BeardshawJ/index.asp
>
>
>John M. Johnston "There is a fine line between hobby and mental
>illness." Dave Barry
>
>
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