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| 176425 | Steve Reynolds <s.e.reynolds@v.. | Jan-16-2008 | Re: What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
On Jan 15, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Eric Seidlitz wrote: > Hello all, > > Bottom line up front: What bits do you use with a bit brace? > Sub-questions: > > 1. Are some types of bits better for slow (hand) boring and others > better for fast (power tool) boring? Interesting question. I think it breaks down into two parts: - drilling wood or metal - using hand tools or power tools Wood will tolerate being drilled by a lot of different types of bits. The only ones that I found to be unsuitable are the ones designed for metal only. These resemble the common twist drill but have a much shallower point. In fact, they look like the bit has been snapped off. There is a type of twist drill with an elongated point that is designed for wood, and I really like them. Refer to this drive-by: http://people.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle/archive/get.phtml? message_id=160436&submit_thread=1#message As for hand or powered and the relation to speed, remember that speed kills. I think that the ability to squeeze a trigger and get a drill bit to revolve at high speed is WAY overdone. Take a drill bit and chuck it into a power drill, drill a hole in a test piece while timing it, use the same bit in a hand drill and compare times. You may be surprised that the hand drill will win. My man Charlie Driggs tells me that it is related to "feed speed". Drills are designed to feed into the material they are drilling at an optimum speed. I can't say what that speed is, but my experience tells me that it much closer to a hand drill than a power drill. I have messed around a couple of times by trying an auger bit in a power drill and never liked it. I think it best to keep the augers with the braces. You will most likely need various types of auger bits to handle all your drilling needs. Some of the Cooke's Patent (Gedge) type bits for drilling end grain. Some solid core for rough drilling. Jennings pattern for most boring needs. Make sure you have fine, medium, and course threads on the lead screws so you can effectively drill in hardwoods, softwoods, and green wood. You'll need some spoon bits for your askew boring. > 2. Can you use standard bits (short-ish, round shank) in a bit brace > with good effect? Even for masonry or metal? Yes. Like I say, the slower speed may be advantageous. You will need a brace that can effectively hold a twist drill because the masonry and metal drilling bits I am familiar with all have that pattern. A Millers Falls Holdall chuck will work for the larger sizes, as will the Lion chuck, and a Yankee. Try one of each. Small jaw chucks are available with a tang for use in a brace, and they can be used for smaller size bits. I find it more effective to use a hand drill for the smaller size drills and leave the brace for the larger sizes. Actually, you should have a small hand drill for really small bits. Of course, you need a really big brace, say 14", for the really big bits. Twist drills are available with a tang and everyone should have a set. > 3. What about expansive bits? I have never found an occasion where an expansive bit looked like the solution to a problem that a fixed bit couldn't solve. I will keep looking for such an occasion because I have a bitchin' set of Clark's Patent Bits. I know I need them. So do you. > 4. What about forstner and spade bits? I get the impression from the > Archives and from googling that these are more for power tools. A brace will handle a Forstner just fine. You can make some nice flat-bottomed holes or intersecting holes with a Forstner in a brace; you should have a set. A set of center bits is just about as nice and you should have a set as backup. I have tried a spade bit in a brace and it worked satisfactorily. I think some Windsor chairmakers are doing this. You should have a full set of spade bits. > > I've had mixed luck using my great-grandpa's Millers Falls bit brace > (772-101, if you're interested), and figure it's a combination of > using the wrong bits or using dull bits. The auger bits that came with > my bit brace are probably in need of a good tune-up (or replacement). > > The 772 is a great brace. With a Lion chuck it should hold all manner of bits. You are probably right to suspect the sharpness of the bits. It is always an epiphany to see the difference a sharp tool makes. In summary, you need all sorts of drill bits and all sorts of braces and hand drills. You will also need plenty of drill indexes to keep them organized and in good shape. Regards, Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | |||
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| 176371 | Eric Seidlitz <adventuresinwoodw | Jan-16-2008 | What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
| 176378 | "Bill Taggart" <wtaggart@c...> | Jan-16-2008 | RE: What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
| 176425 | Steve Reynolds <s.e.reynolds@v.. | Jan-16-2008 | Re: What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
| 176470 | "Blake Ashley" <Blake.Ashley@t.. | Jan-17-2008 | Re: What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
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| 176484 | Graham Hughes <graham@s...> | Jan-17-2008 | Re: What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
| 176506 | Brian Welch <brian_welch@h...> | Jan-18-2008 | Re: What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
| 176543 | Steve Reynolds <s.e.reynolds@v.. | Jan-19-2008 | Re: What Bits for a Bit Brace? |
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