Dearest Galoots, After my original question regarding the Cheney  
patent in OZ I did a little perusing in the Archives, that's the  
place where folks here tell you to go when they are being nice!  
Anywaaaaay, I found that Cyclone tools made Cheney Hammers under  
license to Cheney in the US, but even accessing the friendly tool  
organization in Australia's information I could not see when Cyclone  
made these.

As I was out looking at collections and the the bay I did not see  
another Cheney with the touchmark oilcan? feature with a tiny hole in  
it. Now I am perplexed even more.  Please shed light upon this  
darkness in which I tread! No religious tracts please, just hard  
information n the hammers at this point. P in N
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Peter, Thanks for your information, it does help.  Have you ever seen  
a Cheney or Cheney-style hammer with a touchmark that appears to be  
an oilcan and has a tiny hole, I assume for oiling the one bearing?  
It seems that the one bearing is more captive than the other and was  
never meant to come out very far.  It moves, but stays more recessed  
while the other more actively works and this has the oil hole. I am  
assuming it is an oilcan, but until I found the oil hole it looked as  
much like a whisk broom as anything! You have to use your imagination.

In looking at some old Cheney's I noted that this hammer has the same  
style of wedging on the handle--2 prominent metal wedges set cross  
grain. There is no maker's mark extant, but I think that a date of  
prior to 1929 is correct.  One 1929 ad I saw shows a Cheney claw  
hammer with the stepped head instead of the bell-shaped head, but  
that was a US ad.

This is the part of old tools I love the best, connecting with people  
and tracking down the less than obvious and the less treasured.   
Thanks for your time and assistance, both are greatly appreciated.  
Paul in Normal

On Mar 6, 2007, at 1:32 AM, P J McBride wrote:

> GG's,
> 1949 McPherson catalogue also has nor maker for hammers noted.
> I have on my work bench a small #4 (oz ?) ball peen hammer with the  
> familiar
> octagonal black painted handle, the head is marked Cheney, made in  
> Australia
> steel, 4.
> Nice little hammer, it gets used daily.
>
> another Peter
> In Australia...Melbourne.
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Hi all,
>
> My 1929 and 1937 McPherson's (Aussie tool distributor) catalogues show
> Cheney Claw Hammers and Cheney's Mechanic's Pride Hammers (engineer's
> hammers).
>
> The 1951 catalogue names hammers by type rather than by manufacturer:
> carpenter's, engineer's etc.
>
> Can't locate catalogues from 1937 to 1951 so can't tell you when the
> Cheney reference
> was dropped.
>
> Another catalogue, not dated but would be '20's era, lists Cheney's
> Adz-Eye Nail Hammers.
>
> So you now have a date or at least 1929, probably earlier.
>
> Hans Brunner had some Cheney hammers for sale.
> Check his website for a photo.
>
> Hope this helps.
> Peter B, in NSW, Australia
>
> PS: Catalogue references may be for imported hammers not locally  
> made items!
>
>
>

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Can someone post some pictures? I'd  like to get  a peek at some of these. 

Jim Lemon  




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Hi all,

My 1929 and 1937 McPherson's (Aussie tool distributor) catalogues show
Cheney Claw Hammers and Cheney's Mechanic's Pride Hammers (engineer's 
hammers).

The 1951 catalogue names hammers by type rather than by manufacturer:
carpenter's, engineer's etc.

Can't locate catalogues from 1937 to 1951 so can't tell you when the 
Cheney reference
was dropped.

Another catalogue, not dated but would be '20's era, lists Cheney's 
Adz-Eye Nail Hammers.

So you now have a date or at least 1929, probably earlier.

Hans Brunner had some Cheney hammers for sale.
Check his website for a photo.

Hope this helps.
Peter B, in NSW, Australia

PS: Catalogue references may be for imported hammers not locally made items!

Paul Schobernd wrote:
> Dearest Galoots, After my original question regarding the Cheney 
> patent in OZ I did a little perusing in the Archives, that's the place 
> where folks here tell you to go when they are being nice! Anywaaaaay, 
> I found that Cyclone tools made Cheney Hammers under license to Cheney 
> in the US, but even accessing the friendly tool organization in 
> Australia's information I could not see when Cyclone made these.
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Peter, refer to the Boral website where the history section says Cyclone
started making hand tools in 1958. By 1975 they were taken over by Boral. I
suspect the Cheney branded hammers Made in Australia started in the 1960's,
ending ?

The earlier catalogue references are to imported hammers. Prior to WW2 there
were few hand tools made in Australia; for example Wiltshire started in
1938, and then during and after the War the game took off.  The decline
started in the 1970's until today the game is almost finished.

Regards
Peter Evans in Sydney

-----Original Message-----
My 1929 and 1937 McPherson's (Aussie tool distributor) catalogues show
Cheney Claw Hammers and Cheney's Mechanic's Pride Hammers (engineer's 
hammers).

The 1951 catalogue names hammers by type rather than by manufacturer:
carpenter's, engineer's etc.

Can't locate catalogues from 1937 to 1951 so can't tell you when the 
Cheney reference was dropped.

Another catalogue, not dated but would be '20's era, lists Cheney's 
Adz-Eye Nail Hammers.

So you now have a date or at least 1929, probably earlier.

Hans Brunner had some Cheney hammers for sale.
Check his website for a photo.

Hope this helps.
Peter B, in NSW, Australia

PS: Catalogue references may be for imported hammers not locally made items!

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GG's,
1949 McPherson catalogue also has nor maker for hammers noted.
I have on my work bench a small #4 (oz ?) ball peen hammer with the familiar
octagonal black painted handle, the head is marked Cheney, made in Australia
steel, 4.
Nice little hammer, it gets used daily.

another Peter
In Australia...Melbourne.

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Hi all,

My 1929 and 1937 McPherson's (Aussie tool distributor) catalogues show
Cheney Claw Hammers and Cheney's Mechanic's Pride Hammers (engineer's
hammers).

The 1951 catalogue names hammers by type rather than by manufacturer:
carpenter's, engineer's etc.

Can't locate catalogues from 1937 to 1951 so can't tell you when the
Cheney reference
was dropped.

Another catalogue, not dated but would be '20's era, lists Cheney's
Adz-Eye Nail Hammers.

So you now have a date or at least 1929, probably earlier.

Hans Brunner had some Cheney hammers for sale.
Check his website for a photo.

Hope this helps.
Peter B, in NSW, Australia

PS: Catalogue references may be for imported hammers not locally made items!

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Here is a picture of the hammer logo:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/heavansabove/Cheney-web.jpg, the
initials I think are owner added.

The handle is marked:
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/heavansabove/Cheney-handle-web.jpg

The hammer is marked 5 on the end of the handle.

Regards
Peter Evans in Sydney

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Can someone post some pictures? I'd  like to get  a peek at some of these. 

Jim Lemon  

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Hello Jim

direct from my work bench...
www.petermcbride.com/temp/images/cheney1.jpg
www.petermcbride.com/temp/images/cheney2.jpg

4oz ball peen hammer, Cheney, made in Australia.

Regards,
Peter,
In Melbourne, Australia.

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Jim Lemon  

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