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| 13364 | Michael D. Sullivan <mds@a...> | Feb-08-1997 | Re: Surface Prep Question |
My two pesetas on this question: When I plane or scrape carefully (all of the following pertains only to woods without gross tearout propensities), the wood has almost a glasslike surface I look at it at a low angle to the light. I don't get this when I sand, even with 220, 320, or 400. Maybe if I were extreme enough to go to 1000+, though, as if scarysharp(TM)ing the wood, but I don't. And even from above, the wood looks smoother and glossier if planed or scraped than if sanded. This is very important if I'm using a penetrating, non-surface finish (read: oil), because what I see, unfinished, is what I'll get, finished, as far as the surface is concerned. No way a 220-sanded board will be glossy with an oil finish, or even a 400-sanded board. Smooth, yes, but not glossy. I can't imagine even a 1000-grit-sanded board being glossy with oil. Wax can make up for some of the non-glossiness of sanded oil finishes, but a planed board is inherently shiny even with an oil finish. It's still important if I'm using a low-build finish, such as a wiping varnish (e.g., Waterlox), an oil/varnish blend, or French Polish. This will add some gloss, but the surface of the board still establishes the character of the finished board. A non-fanatically sanded board (220-400) can be made glossy and smooth with a low-build finish, but it's glossy because of the finish, not because of the wood. I frankly don't know if I could tell the difference, depending on the number of coats, but there's a difference to me that I believe should be detectible (at least with a limited number of coats), perhaps as subtly as how the figure of the wood may have more transparency and depth when planed/scraped than sanded. If I'm using a high-build finish, such as varnish (poly or non-) or some lacquer or shellac finishes, all that will be seen is the finish, for the most part. I don't spray, but a multicoated spray lacquer finish can be made as glossy, smooth, and glasslike as one wants. There still may be some advantage to having a finely planed or scraped surface over a finely sanded one in this case, but it seems to me the difference would be subtle indeed. Perhaps the difference between a 200 and 400 sanding job becomes invisible with a good built finish, and I'm willing to imagine that the difference between a finely sanded and a planed/scraped finish would be hard to detect too. Where the difference between sanding and planing/scraping is most pronounced in favor of sanding is when the wood is to be stained (not dyed). Sanding is necessary to create the ridges that hold pigment. A mirror-finished board won't hold stain as well as a 220-sanded board. The finish (high build) supplies the gloss and smoothness that sanding takes away. After and during finishing, sanding and finer abrasives are entirely appropriate, because one will be abrading the finish, not the wood. Any built finish is essentially a plastic and can be given an arbitrarily high gloss by use of the right grits (including pumice and rottenstone). Since finish doen't have a grain structure, there's no danger of tearing grain at this point, and one can use whatever level of abrasives you want to reach the desired polish. Flamers, fire away! -- Michael D. Sullivan, Bethesda, Md., USA -- Email: mds@a..., avogadro@w... | |||
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